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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 18:33    


saiyouri

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Grat that sounds like massive fun coming to people around the country. I can't believe that people might lose their insurance and be screwed over big time.... What a time to live in. I was thinking of getting meds for some of my mental issues but right now not even sure it's a good idea if we might lose it. Don't want something that might go away. God my brain is broken today.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 19:02    


Saokymo

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My mom has hurried to get her eyes checked out and have a much needed cataract surgery scheduled and done with because we have no idea if/when her ACA insurance plan will be taken away. It's added a huge amount of stress to an already stressful situation.

I'd love to get some much needed healthcare myself, but I'm in the same boat as Saiyouri. It's a load of BS, and conservatives should be ashamed of themselves for inflicting so much needless pain and uncertainty on the people who can least afford it.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 19:38    


saiyouri

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I completely agree with Saokymo. I have tried to put my mom out of my head. She's on SS now due to her age and her health has been declining. I forgot what breathing issue she has which can lead to death. She's not worried about it but the sleep apnea machine she got isn't helping that much right now. She's going in to see doctors to figure out how to do it so it works right and she's complained that she is more tired and has more of a time trying to breath. I know she doesn't have apnea. I just forgot the medical term she used. But it is serious I remember that much. And the fact she put on a ton of weight the last few years... She badly needs a doctor and insurance because I know her and her husband who had back surgery a couple years ago won't be able to afford their home or anything just because of doctors and I'd hate to see my only parents suffer or die because of how stupid our government officials are.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 20:14    


Pwale

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Yes, yes, yes.

I'm so grateful to live in Massachusetts. Even if I don't manage to find a job that gives me insurance in the next year, I can still get insurance through MassHealth, the state insurance program. But most states don't have a program that predates the ACA.

The whole thing is just so mean and cruel. This plan will cost the government money and be more expensive for low income and working class people. People will lose health insurance. And it's all just because they feel like they HAVE to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. They're not trying to fix any problems. It's just so...petty. I've heard so many Republicans say stuff like "Well, we said we were going to do it, so now we have to do it."

Nevermind that polling clearly shows that most people want the problems with the ACA to be fixed instead of getting rid of the ACA entirely.

ARGH! I mean...they spend YEARS undermining, sabotaging and weakening the ACA. They created all these problems by changing how insurance markets worked. Then they point to the problems that THEY created as evidence that the ACA doesn't work. AND THEN, instead of fixing the problems that they created, they take health insurance away from people and tell them its for their own good.

I hate this. I hate this so fucking much. And did you guys hear what Chaffetz said? That if poor people wanted health insurance they just shouldn't buy iPhones? I mean A) a smartphone is a one time expense (not including cell coverage and plans, but he was talking specifically about "buying the new iPhone" so maybe he doesn't even realizes that buying the iPhone is not the only expense) and health insurance is a monthly expense so those two aren't interchangeable at all and B) WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHAFFETZ DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE DEPEND ON SMARTPHONES FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN THEIR LIVES?! HOW ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO USE THEIR INSURANCE COVERAGE IF THEY CAN'T CALL THEIR DOCTOR TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT OR CHECK THEIR EMAILS OR DO THEIR JOBS?!

Also...iPhones cost a couple hundred bucks a year, and insurance for the average family is something like $15,000 a year.


I dunno...it's just...they don't know what it's like to be poor and they don't care. They just don't care. Maybe they care on an intellectual level. They like to go to charities and feel like they're being nice to the less fortunate. But they don't care enough to actually think about it or try to understand people who are different from them. It was the same thing when they were talking about "welfare queens" or how in a bunch of states they're trying to make it illegal to spend food stamps on steak and lobster, because heaven forbid poor people make their own choices about their nutrition or eat something that might actually be good for them.

A long time ago, around where I live, mill workers went on strike for the right to eat something OTHER than lobster two days a week. Back then lobster was cheap and it was the only thing mill workers could afford and the only food the mills provided. People fought and shed blood so that the mills would pay them enough to buy something other than lobster.

And now the government wants to make it so the descendants of those people can't buy lobster at all. And why? Because they think it would be a "waste." Why? Why would someone having a nice dinner be a waste, just because they're poor? It's not.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 20:57    


Saokymo

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It's class warfare, plain and simple. They're not even bothering to dress it up or hide their total disdain for the lower classes anymore. If you're not a rich lobbyist, congress does not care about your suffering.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 21:09    


saiyouri

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Sadly Saokymo is right. It's been like that for years and years and it's just getting worse. My fiance and I get more expensive food with our food stamps for special occasions; anniversaries or birthdays or maybe Christmas and valentines. And our phone we are going to buy next is going to be a unlocked cheap one by Asus. Decent, better than our 30$ one we got now that is hell to even make calls with but it's all we can afford since we both live on SSI and after paying all bills and getting what we need for the house we still don't have much afterwards.

Government doesn't ever care that people actually with no money do try our best and splurge on special times and nothing more. I know there are some out there that don't be careful but that isn't every single person in low income or no income I guess. Most are careful and still can't afford essential things. Hell buying our bed made is screwed for the month and if it wasn't for his mom giving us $200 to help with things, we'd have nothing. (he badly wanted to make sure my birthday was special and it was the 8th.)

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 21:54    


Pwale

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And yet...there are more of us than there are of them. The 99% is stronger than the 1%. And we vote.

This baffles me. The people who depend the most on these services tend to vote Republican. So why does the Republican party want to harm us? I would understand it if Republicans were looking out for people's needs, but why do people vote for those that want to take away their healthcare and their housing?

I mean...it makes sense if you think of the Republicans as just being greedy assholes, but I don't think it's that simple. Or maybe it is and I'm just being naive. But I still wonder if part of it is that they really are just too sheltered to understand what scarcity is actually like.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 11th, '17, 22:06    


saiyouri

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I don't think I will understand how some people vote. My mom for 45 was something I don't think I will understand and would rather never know what her reasons were. I would vote for people who want to help and not just because my entire family is one side. That I never understood about people. I was raised in a independent family. We voted for whoever we felt was right and was a good choice. Nothing else. People I don't think will ever be fully understood on how or why they do things. Especially with our awesometastic government. But rich are always the best; according to anyone with money and power that is.

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 12th, '17, 16:57    


Pwale

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I'm reading this article from the Washington Post, about people in West Virginia who get health care through the ACA and voted for Trump. It's beautifully written and really illuminating--but also really frustrating. Like the man who blames the Affordable Care Act for the changes to his private insurance--changes that were implemented by the company he works for that provides his insurance, not the Affordable Care Act. Or the lady who is angry about a loophole in the Medicare system who thinks the ACA is causing the loophole when really the ACA has a provision to slowly close the loophole over a number of years.

So the first guy doesn't understand how he gets his health insurance and the second lady doesn't know what the ACA is. And that's why they're going to lose insurance? Because they just don't understand? I mean, who can blame them?! I certainly don't understand this health policy stuff and I'm making a real effort.

Ugh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... ge%2Fstory

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 Post subject: Re: Current Events
Posted: Mar 13th, '17, 16:31    


saiyouri

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They sound a bit stupid. To me they really should look their insurance up and try to understand what they don't like about it. But that's just me. I know that stuff is hard to understand. That's coming from someone who gets confused reading simple things at times because of all the brain damage I got from passing out over the past few years. Ugh. I really hope things do get better some how or way with this insurance thing. So many people will be angry and screwed over and thats not something this country needs.

Bad enough my fiance kept telling me yesterday that my mom won't make it til the end of the year because of her health. I personally don't see it (might be ignoring it for sanity wise since I most likely won't be able to see her this year due to the cost of driving 8hrs to see her and then 8hrs back). And I know the insurance would help her way of life to be slight easier but with the way things are I might end up freaking out over it if things go wonky with the insurance plan going through or whatever they might end up doing.

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