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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 15:42    


Pwale

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Today, I am broken. Tomorrow, I get back up and fight.

We are survivors, and right now the entire world is depending on us to do whatever we can to make this even a tiny bit better. Get out in your communities. Get organized. Don't give up.

Take the time to grieve, then get ready to fight.

Never give up on hope.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 15:56    


Pwale

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Don't despair. Don't give up. Not yet. We're not there yet.

The most important thing we can do is take care of our communities. Look out for each other. Even the people who voted for Trump. Though they do not realize it, many of his voters will be among the first victims of his policies.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 16:37    


Telos

Joined: Jul 11th, '12, 21:02
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Wooly wrote:Oh no, please don't give up :( Your post had so many valid points and while I, too, am very anxious to see what will happen next, giving up is not going to help. I'm pretty certain there's also a big part of America/Rest of the world that do NOT support clownlord Trumpy and his ways and there'll always be someone to stand and say "NO MORE" I don't know enough about American voting and white house for that matter, but I'm sure they can't just let him do as he please.

Sending a big virtual hug your way, friend. :qh:
Thank you-- One of the few things that are (kind of) helping is that a big part of Trump's numbers are people who crawled out of the woodwork just to vote for him, be it from shared bigotry, misguided ignorance or simple spite; I suspect that's why the polls were so wildly off, even if Trump's camp has and probably will keep going on about poll-rigging. Now that the election's over it's not those guys we need to worry about, it's the guys in D.C. who can push his crazy legislation through. There were some Republicans who recognized the danger Trump poses and either voted against him or abstained and I'm hoping at least some of those still hold power in D.C. and will try to advocate sanity instead of the party line.

Returning that virtual hug; I have the feeling we're all going to need every hug we can find.
Death Candy wrote:Where do you live? I'll send myself, some anti-depressants, and chocolate. :qh:

Please don't leave me to face him alone. *puppy-dog eyes*
I'll take those chocolates and anti-depressants, but trust me, you don't want to be here: I'm in a state so chronically Red it should be seeing a doctor. I moved here a few years ago and this is the first time I've really felt homesick since the initial bout passed; at least at home I'd be surrounded by people who'd understand why I was upset instead of by people with Trump/Pence bumper stickers.

We should fit out one of those shipping containers with camping stuff and mail ourselves to Hawaii! The price of living is crazy but it's full of Democrats, and we might be able to see the telescope before Trump inevitably slashes funding! Haha... ha.
Pwale wrote:Today, I am broken. Tomorrow, I get back up and fight.

We are survivors, and right now the entire world is depending on us to do whatever we can to make this even a tiny bit better. Get out in your communities. Get organized. Don't give up.

Take the time to grieve, then get ready to fight.

Never give up on hope.
Pwale wrote:Don't despair. Don't give up. Not yet. We're not there yet.

The most important thing we can do is take care of our communities. Look out for each other. Even the people who voted for Trump. Though they do not realize it, many of his voters will be among the first victims of his policies.
This is so very true, and something I needed to be reminded of. Last night sent me reeling, but I was so exhausted that I managed to get some sleep and I'm a little more clear-headed now. Still incredibly shaken but you're right-- No matter how long he's in office, and I can only hope it'll be a short stay, this will have repercussions and shutting down won't do any good.

And that's part of what frustrates me so much! Such a huge part of his voter bloc are people who'll be directly hurt by the policies he wants to put in play: People who rely on welfare and Medicaid, lower-income households and the rural poor who say they voted for Trump because he "sticks it to the elite" and somehow don't realize that Trump's been trying desperately to be the elite his entire life! I'm preaching to the choir here, I know, but it just baffles me and somehow makes it worse. It was so close in so many states! I'm looking at neighbors who voted for Trump, the limited-income elderly and people with big families who rely on welfare, and I just don't understand how they don't realize they're going to be suffering. It's tempting to hope that this will be a complete dumpster fire and everyone who supported him will see what they did, but I know that would just hurt everyone and, since we can't avoid it, we have to try and lessen the blow.

On top of everything else, I feel so bad for Barack Obama. His terms were far from peaceful, including criticism from people demanding utterly unrealistic things (especially given Republican resistance), and now it looks like much of what he managed to do (health care acts, increased funding to the arts and STEM) will be undone. When I think of Michelle Obama being replaced as the First Lady by Melania Trump, I want to cry. At least anger's starting to eclipse hopelessness in me, which is good; at least anger can be channeled productively. Nothing to do now but buckle down and keep fighting.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 17:05    


Moi

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I'm trying to not force worry.
I'm disabled, I can't hold down a job and I need medication I can't afford.
And I still think he's everything wrong with this country.
This is seriously the biggest joke I've seen in my life.

I was serious when I said it would abolish all the progress we've made in this country.
As people have said "Back to the 50s!"

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Look for me in the white forest
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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 18:42    


saiyouri

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Pwale I'm glad you have all of that history in your past. It will definitley make you a stronger woman. Wished my family talked about their past but nope. We keep shit to ourselves and won't say a word. I had to do research myself to find out a few of my family died in the Holocaust and not many people seem to know that alot of non Jewish people also died during that time. My family is all Roman Catholic (something I hate) but I know from my father's dad wanting me dead when he found out his pure German son got a damn mix pollack bitch preggers, the kid needs to die. My one thing that pushed me to find out the truth as much as I can of my family.... I love my family (sarcasm).

I am depressed at how this country with like maybe half the pop voting could let something like this happen. I'm still trying to figure it out and I know I never will.

Moi I feel for you hun. My fiance and I are dependent on our support from the government. He has a weak body and heart problems and I am too screwed up from my past and family that I can't really function well with people. Not until I get the ex totally out of my life and heal from the abuse I suffered way too long from him out of my body and mind. I am really worried about him wanting to kill things that helps people like all of us and others like us.

I have no idea what to think but I can't let the fear take over me. It will let him and that bastards who support him win and we can not let that happen.

Just wished the police and everyone else took voting suppression more serious and actually gave a damn but I'm asking way too much from this damn country which is way beyond it's times. Now we get to live in hell that our families and friends fought to fight for all of our rights. All down the toilet now.... Ugh I need to kill things in games right now. Thank god for our games we have to take our minds off the hell we live in and will have to experience.

Don't let the fear take all of you. There has to be some light at the end of this whatever it is. There has to be!

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 18:49    


Pwale

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Love you, saiyouri. :qh:

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 19:10    


saiyouri

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Thanks sweetheart :qh: Love you too. You helped calm my mind alot this past year.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 19:22    


Moi

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My mom's side of the family used to talk shit about my dad.
And they never failed to insult him for being Mexican.
And when I was a kid, this girl in my class told another girl she couldn't play with her because the girl's doll wasn't white.
I was like 5 years old, and I knew that was wrong xD
My best friend for 13 years was black, and my family member called her "That little n-word!"
And that filled me with so much RAGE.
My bestie now is black, and I worry for her.
Just because she is black.
I should never have to do that >__>

I really wish people who don't feel like that, could go somewhere else and they can have exactly what they want.
Everyone being identical.
When I think of my country, I don't see just straight, white, Christians.
I see a plethora of people.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand."


saiyouri: Thank you, and I hope the best for you and everyone else who will be bothered by his possible "decisions".

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Hiding in a hollow tree (come find me)
I know you hear me,
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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 19:41    


saiyouri

Joined: Apr 28th, '10, 03:07
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Thank you so much Moi. The same goes for you and your loved ones. I'm really sorry to hear that. Your friends and father should never of had to deal with that. Sad how people don't realize this country was started for freedom, that anyone was allowed safety here... The one thing we don't have anymore.

My fiance told me last night if things get bad after he takes office, he will have to get a gun to protect us. He tends to over worry about me a shit ton but it's the first person in my life who actually worries about my safety and health. He was even unsure about me going to vote yesterday.

We get into the church in town that was the closest voting station and it was quiet and calm and he was shocked and glad. IF he saw anything wrong outside he would of dragged me home lol. He's so cute. I tell him everything about what is going on and he's lost all hope for the country, more so than he already did. >.> I'm starting to be more careful on how and what I tell him now because of it.

I really hope all of our loved ones are safe and sane in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump
Posted: Nov 9th, '16, 22:15    


Death Candy

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Telos wrote:
Death Candy wrote:Where do you live? I'll send myself, some anti-depressants, and chocolate. :qh:

Please don't leave me to face him alone. *puppy-dog eyes*
I'll take those chocolates and anti-depressants, but trust me, you don't want to be here: I'm in a state so chronically Red it should be seeing a doctor. I moved here a few years ago and this is the first time I've really felt homesick since the initial bout passed; at least at home I'd be surrounded by people who'd understand why I was upset instead of by people with Trump/Pence bumper stickers.

We should fit out one of those shipping containers with camping stuff and mail ourselves to Hawaii! The price of living is crazy but it's full of Democrats, and we might be able to see the telescope before Trump inevitably slashes funding! Haha... ha.
I live in a Red state too.

Sounds good. I like Hawaii. Plus my sister's deadbeat father of her daughter lives there and I'd like to sacrifice him to the volcano gods. <<; And my daughter's biological deadbeat.

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