I will try to clearify some things once and for all and then I will kindly ask you to take the conversation somewhere else, because not only is it getting out of hand, but is starting to have little to do with the art contest.
When I was asked about the skin color I replied "Her skin should be skin colored, obviously.
" I did not, in any way, meant to be disprespectful. I simply did not fully understand the question. See, I even added that little "Heh". emoticon at the end, to express how I meant my reply. The question was, whether the color for her skin was optional. It is not optional, it should be "skin colored".
So, KeyamiLove mentioned a language barrier, and I don't think the problem is a language barrier, but people having different interpretations of that term. Some people seemed to think that "skin color" was one shade of color and wanted it further specified, while to me "skin color" is a spectrum of many different colors.
This is what skin color means to me - It is not a shade, not any specific color and this is also why I did not add any reference color to it. It just means this: The color of human skin. The only reason why I even added the term "skin color" to the reference picture here is because Tifunee is a furry and, technically, could have fur which would allow a whole new spectrum of colors. So I just wanted to express that she had human skin. I did not define any specific shade of that human skin, nor do I
want to. She is not "caucasian". You can give her whatever skin shade you want - As long as it is the one of a human skin. Can you make her, for example, afro american? Hell, yeah! I would think it would be a bit off-character, but I most certainly would not disqualify any entry because of this.
When I said I believed I trusted users to use common sense, I was refering to the fact, that I believe given the reference picture and the term "skin color", they would be able to unerstand that she has the skin of a human being and not green, purple, or blue skin. These were even pretty much my words and I don't see anything disrespectful about thinking our users are smart enough for this. Quite the contrary, actually.
KeyamiLove wrote:Woah woah woah, I was going to stay out of this, but now it's just getting ridiculous. Alice you can't just edit out snippets of a conversation and stick them next to each other to accuse a stressed out German lady of saying only Caucasian skin colours are common sense.
This is something I have to point out - Alice, I did not believe the way you held this conversation was very respectful. It was as if you tried to twist my statement around to make me look like I made some racist remarks by first saying that if I did not specify the skin shade, I would get entries with colors like "chestnut", "copper" or "marble" and when I said I thought people could use their common sense (to make her skin not for example purple, and I specificly used that extreme example!), you basically said I would not regard "brown", "tan" or "pale" skin shades as human skin colors. In that case, you could have talked specificly about "brown, tan or pale skin" from the start and not used color terms. Because when I think of copper I think of the metal and not human skin, when I think of marble, I think of stone. But you first just named these things, and later turnd it around to specify them as skin shades to make it appear as if I disregarded certain skin shades as human skin colors. Which I did not. I am certainly not the one who feels the need to label skin shades, which is why I refused to specify Tifunee's skin shade from the beginning.
So, if anyone still has any uncertainties about it: You can give Tifunee any skin shade you want, as long as it is a skin shade a human being would have. In the original design she has a darker skin shade than most of our other NPCs, but I don't care whether you make her pale or dark. This contest is about having fun and certainly not about skin colors.
I did not mean to be disrespectful. I just thought the definition was clear from the start and did not understand the question, as it did not even cross my mind that someone wanted a skin color narrowed down to an exact shade.
And now this conversation really needs to end here! I don't want to silenece anyone and keep them from speaking their mind. I just don't think this announcement is the right place for this discussion. If someone feels the need to further discuss this topic, you can take it to my Hangout: http://www.kofk.de/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6587
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