I side with those who say it's too bright. It was a shock to my eyes when I first saw it and I'm still not used to it. I don't think it's just the white itself since other sites are largely white and they aren't as harsh as this.

For me I think it's the transition from the blue to the white since the blue itself is quite bright, then suddenly all the white space. Continuing the blue/cloud theme for that space would make a huge difference I think or maybe some texture or something at least.

I hope you take people's feedback into consideration and try to find some balance since you don't wish to change the color fully. All I will say is that my monitor is set just fine for me and I'm certainly not going to change the settings to make one single site tolerable to look at.

I'm glad the menu items are now drop down. I really didn't like the previous one. Also glad to see new art at the top but I hope other art might get featured there too at some point.

Can't comment on much since it's not done yet, but what I definitely don't like is the avi position. I'd much prefer it to be placed at the top with all the text stuff below. If there'd be a way we could choose that option, that would be cool.

I actually got used to the white really quickly and I'm the one with super sensitive post-op cataract eyes. I do find myself squinting more often though especially on longer forum pages where there is a lot more white. I like that it looks clean and open although a compromise should be thought of especially since there are a large number of users expressing concern over this white backdrop.

If we had a button somewhere to change through layouts that would be cool but it'll probably be tedious to implement. Perhaps more trees around the border or the bottom of the page.

I like all my currencies at the top actually. Change is nice and thank goodness for this drop down menu. HAHA.

Cheers!

TimTam wrote: I'm certainly not going to change the settings to make one single site tolerable to look at.

One single site?
Google?
Amazon?
Ebay?
Youtube?
Yahoo?
Wikipedia?
Instagram?

All these sites and many many more of the most popular websites of the world have exactly the same shade of white as background as we have now. (Among the most visited and popular websites of the world only Twitter has a slightly more bluish white and Facebook uses gray. But all the others are exactly the same hex code as our background).

If you find KOfK not tolareable to look at because of the white background, you should feel the same about half of the internet.


I am getting the impression here that the problem people have with the white background is that they aren't used to it. Seeing as so many popular websites use the same background, but no one seems to have a problem with them, it is hard to believe that the color itself would be the problem. It is hard for me to understand why an all white background on, for example, youtube is no problem, but the same shade here should be.

i would just like to point out that the problem most people have with the white is not that they dislike it.
it's that the color is physically painful to look at.
it's literally hurting them to be on the site.

mercu wrote:i would just like to point out that the problem most people have with the white is not that they dislike it.
it's that the color is physically painful to look at.
it's literally hurting them to be on the site.

I think we are turning in circles here and this is finickiness of words.
If something hurts me, then the logical conclusion is that I dislike it. My concernes about this regarding many popular sites like Google, Amazon, Ebay, Youtube, Yahoo, Wikipedia, Instagram having the exact same background but apparently not hurting people persists. (Or maybe still hurting people, but still somehow being popular) Same with sites like Gaia that had all white backgrounds for years. It does not make sense to me.

I can only repeat what I just told alice: We will keep an eye on this and see whether the background leads to negatve or positive changes in site activity or has no impact at all, we will try to find compromises, if necessary. For now there isn't really much more that I can say to address the issue. The layout change has not even been out for 3 whole days, it's not time enough for anyone to give it a proper chance or try to get used to it. It's too eraly for me to make any kind of conclusions, neither based on data from the site, nor from feedback here. So for now I will wait this out, see how it goes, and apply changes if necessary, when we can make some proper conclusions from feedback and user data.

Easy changes I can make is change the blue like shown in the example above, if that helps at all. For other changes, I would have to talk with starkad anyway and see whether we can come up with a solution that still gives us the benefits of having a white background that I listed above, but doesn't hurt people's eyes. Maybe even just changing the white background to a slightly darker hue than all white might already help. A change that would not really be clearly visible, but might have a positive effect on people's eyes. But as said, for now I can't say or do much, so please give all of this a few more days or even weeks and then we can see what we will or can do from there.

It hurt my eyes looking at it @_@! Again I haven't been using kofk as much nothing exciting has happen happening lately on here .