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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Apr 16th, '13, 00:19    


Russaria

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Nellie wrote:

I don't know what site you came form but here "rarity" is only used to describe items, not pets. Knuffels are our babies, nobody cares about the rarity of them because, well, nobody cares. If you want to know who created a Wildie, go to the Knuffel forum, there are tons of threads by WK makers plus a whole thread dedicated to registering all Wild Knuffels.



your rudeness is unbecoming and unessesary. I "Came to this site" through the sig of a person showing off their adoptables. And this site was listed in an adoptables site list. If the owner of the site didn't want that "market" here then perhaps it should have been turned into another imuv or other avatar only site and the "Knuffles" reduced to just another item you attach to your avatar. Yes i am here for the adoptables/collectables part of the site/game, I had no idea that part of the game was considered so small or unconcerning. I really have very little interest in dressing up my avatar (Some but not enough to call it why I am here). If people who prefer the collectables/adoptables part of the game aren't welcomed or are otherwise disparaged as silly (or whatever point you are trying to make about that part of the game) then excuse me. And yes, when an adptable is offered for a limited time and then retired for good, as it is stated, then it IS limited edition and rarity is the value of it. Had no idea that players who prefer one part of the game (Avatars) had disparaging thoughts about those who prefer the other part. So i'm through with this conversation, but thanks for the Insight!

My statement was only regarding the idea to promote the wellbeing of the game, to make those who ARE here for the adoptables have more fun and ease which would = more money for the owner. Had no idea some felt the two could not play together and both have as much fun here as possible. Those who are here for the Knuffles pay money and support the site too ya know and deserve attention to that part of the game as well. It effects nothing about the Avatar side to also include adoptables updates and mechanics as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Apr 16th, '13, 05:33    


R0se_0f_Fire

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I'm don't think Nellie was trying to be rude...

I think what is trying to come across here is that here *on kofk* the Kunffel are pets, and in no way like items. (That is why you can not trade them, so there is no way to make money off of them, as they are not an 'item')
*the owner of the site has stated that they are separate from items, and dose not view or treat them as such.*

Well I do think having a way to see who made the knuffel would be nice *just some how attached to the WK itself*

I don't think the amount that there is of that WK is a logical thing to code. I think it would be a bit difficult to do, as not only would the code need to know how many were sold, but then it would need to be linked so that if some one got rid of one, that would be recorded. (also one way that the WK are not treated like items is that they can not be re-adopted once released.)

I guess maybe a good way to put this is that they are Adoptables, not Collectables. They are not meant to have a price/value/rarity as far as I have seen/can deduct from the admin. *only how I have seen it, I might be wrong*

It sounds like a lot of work, with not a lot of pay out.
Starkad dose ALL of the coding for this site. And with the server crashing, along with the 100+ other items that need to be coded for this site, **already planned and the things that pop up when something goes wrong.*

I also could see it hurting the amount of WK. *I don't make them as I don't feel like putting my self through how few I know would sell.**
And if I did make one with this feature, I would feel bad every time the number went down.
And that would encourage me Not to make more... >.>; *IMO*

Maybe if there was a bit more of a demand for it, it might be something to add, but as of right now, you are the only person I have seen on the site to care about how rare their Knuffel is I'm afraid.

I hope this did not come across rude in anyway, and I hope this comes across a little bit clearer?

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Apr 18th, '13, 11:47    


Russaria

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Well I was just throwing an idea regarding that part of the game. When it came across lke "that" part of the game was of lesser value I was bit disparaged. Yes there are many "Avatar" sites, and some of them do have little pet items to add to you avatar (Even this one has that). But not many also cater to the adoptables market as well. Unicreatures which is the adoptables side of their avatar/forum site (unifaction) for instance. It was a smart move on their part (and this one too) as it brings in both markets. I haven't seen what few there are though have any problem with "the two sides". Actually it's the only other one I can think of that has pulled it off so KofK is in a pretty unique class. They tend to focus on both sides well and everyone seems happy.

I guess I can see where WK are in a diff catagory than regular K since they are not able to dig and so forth. That's fine. The regular K (which are of course limited) can fill the "collector" bone in those like me since they are limited. As you can see fom my avatar I paid for the aries set. So I'm fine with that part, I was just kind of speaking up regarding the adoptables part since many people are here for that (As I mentioned about where I found the site, listed in a virtual pet site (vurtual pet list dot com to be exact). So it should be expected that some people may come here/be here for that part of the game and would otherwise not be here if it was just another avatar only site. So I was kind of speaking up regarding that part, and any advancements or ideas to make that part of the game more exciting, and that they would be thought about, of interest, of value, and important to consider (or keep in mind) too.

After all, I'm sure everyone wants the site to grow and be successful, especially if you have a good enough idea to capture both markets like this site can do.

Thanks Rose for the thoughts.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Apr 18th, '13, 12:32    


Finch

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Some knuffels are "rarer" than others in the regard that earlier gens had less released than the current or recent knuffels. AKA, less to go around, and now that the user base is much larger, they can be considered "rare." People want to adopt them.

However, knuffels should not be regarded as items or currency. While you may not feel this way, the creators of the site and those involved have made it quite clear that knuffels should be treated like pets. You wouldn't regard your cats or dogs or what-have-you as money or items to be traded, and therefore you should not treat your knuffels as such either.

For this reason selling/buying knuffel threads are forbidden. Not to mention that if selling knuffels became an option, users who horde or otherwise have many duplicate knuffels would suddenly have the chance to make a huge amount of FP, thereby changing the site's economy drastically.

Users are, however, allowed to adopt knuffels from other people.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Apr 20th, '13, 13:50    


Finch

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Someone mentioned it before in another thread, but an option to remove a knuffel from daycare prematurely would be really nice.

You wouldn't get your points back, and your knuffel wouldn't gain any EXP from it, of course.

But I just misclicked and instead of putting my knuffel in daycare for 20 minutes she's gone for 24 hours. Not at all what I wanted, but I can't do anything about it. :mcmeh:

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Apr 21st, '13, 22:27    


Russaria

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Russaria wrote: I was just kind of speaking up regarding the adoptables part since many people are here for that (As I mentioned about where I found the site, listed in a virtual pet site (vurtual pet list dot com to be exact). So it should be expected that some people may come here/be here for that part of the game and would otherwise not be here if it was just another avatar only site. So I was kind of speaking up regarding that part, and any advancements or ideas to make that part of the game more exciting, and that they would be thought about, of interest, of value, and important to consider (or keep in mind) too.

After all, I'm sure everyone wants the site to grow and be successful, especially if you have a good enough idea to capture both markets like this site can do.



Considering the last announcement post where the admins are talking about trouble with donations and funds I wanted to reiterate my comments in this thread. I certainly don't want the site to go away after Knuffles becoming my fav adoptable. Maybe some things should be reconsidered regarding making the Knuffles more a part of the game, those who are here for the adoptables part have very little reason at this time to donate more than small amounts because they don't NEED anything else or have much reason for FC. Maybe more of that market could help with the funds/donation problems.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: May 1st, '13, 22:56    


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If you'd like Knuffel that aren't adopted as widely as others, you can always sort the Wild Knuffel list by Quantity - highest and scroll until you find one that's only got a couple of days left before being retired, or by Time - oldest and choose one that has a lot of them left. The Knuffel are released in same amount so if there are a lot left still, it means not a lot of people have adopted it so far.

As for having a list of how many wilds are in circulation, there used to be a time when we used to keep record of EVERYTHING. But it killed our server. So we have to pick and choose what we keep record of. You can see how many Wild Knuffel we've had out so far here. This list is only going to increase. I doubt that we can afford to keep track of how many of these sold on the site. Perhaps a user-made thread could record it, and I encourage you to do so if you wish; but I don't think this is something the site really needs to do.

And as for the FC, there is a feature for the Knuffel lovers that would require a FC: one of the Daycare options. Since inflation is a big problem, Firn, the owner of this site, has always been more concerned with making a food sink than making a feature that requires FC, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: May 11th, '13, 03:13    


Secret_Sun

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It would be nice if we had the option to withdraw our Knuffels from daycare. I have the tendency to select them and click the buy button without much thought, so a way of undoing that would be great. I don't care about fp much, but I don't want some of them to grow up.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: May 26th, '13, 02:59    


SandCloud

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I don't know if this suggestion has been made/turned down before but, what about Knuffles for FC? You said you were having problems with funds, and I know I would buy FC for some different knuffles. When I first signed up I bought FC to sell for FP to buy knuffles with. It wouldn't have the normal 500 amount, it would take forever to sell. So maybe 100-200 being sold in total? 1 sold at a time and you can cycle your way through the elements?

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: May 26th, '13, 03:37    


Finch

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A better way to distribute knuffel via fairy coins might simply be the ability to choose any knuffel that is no longer available via KT.

Want a gen 1? Use a fairy coin.
Want a gen 5? Use a fairy coin.
Heck, want a gen 10? Use a fairy coin.


I guess with the coin you could buy a "breeder's pass" or something, and with it Tifunee would let you into the backroom (where she lets you pick any knuffel you like.)


It seems unfair for there to be FC-exclusive knuffels, because that would require people to donate (example: people who collect every knuffel possible). Not everyone has the money or the means to donate, so they shouldn't feel forced to.

Offering a choice of past gens allows for newer users to check off any older knuffs on their wishlist.

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