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On parents and OCs:
They have a living mom.  9%  [ 10 ]
They have a living dad.  7%  [ 8 ]
Their dad is dead.  8%  [ 9 ]
Their mom is dead.  7%  [ 8 ]
One of their parents is dying/in a coma, etc.  8%  [ 9 ]
It's all mixed.  25%  [ 27 ]
Mika, your polls are weird. ._.  34%  [ 36 ]
Total votes : 107
 Post subject: Re: ↓ → qυιℓℓ & cαиvαs 【 αи σc нαиgσυт 】 ← ↑
Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 06:13    


Nuke

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The brain does and probably has always fascinated me. I don't know the exact numbers, but having the studied the brain some, every region has some responsibility connected to our fuctioning... so I imagine we need all of it. All the parts of the brain are label and we at least have theories about what happens in each. Although I assume the hypothamus is actually doing what they think it's doing- since that's directly responsible for pretty much everything that happens in our bodies. I once read that most of what we know about how the brain functions come from when we see it damaged and not functioning properly. If you're ever curious, information on the brain is easy to find.

That's very admirable of you to do that for someone you feel impressed by. I've never understood being impressed honestly, though I've heard more than one person say they want to be impressed. I don't understand that, but I can't be impressed by people or impress them for that matter (maybe with how much I write, but I don't see what's impressive about such a fluke.) I'm impressed by how we function, I'm distressed by most of what we do. I don't need to be entertained or impressed or anything of the sort really. There's a wealth of information out there and it's accessible to me and if it wasn't I'd explore on my own. Collect it, put it into the soup that's my own version of daydreaming I suppose. Maybe it's thinking, sometimes it's thinking. I don't ponder though. At least I wouldn't describe what I do as pondering, I wonder, I seek, I find, I think, I organize it, alter it, fit into a scheme I can use (or discard it, antagonize it if it does so to me- it's a tad complicated to explain), but then I will wonder again and the process plays over and over.

It is certainly awkward when people online drop very personal problems on people they don't know, yet that seems to be at least what some 60% of the internet is about if you're a forum surfer. It doesn't matter to me if people online like me and I have a way of saying what's on my mind and being blunt about it. I can't curve my behavior to overly sensitive trolls all the time, though it may bother me and be a pain to deal with or work around people who dislike me. I've upset many people, said things that are deviant to the status quo and upsetting. At a time I hated how I thought, I wanted to be liked, sure, fit in and all that. Now I sort of appreciate the fact that I don't. I rather dislike people, if I upset them it's not my problem, because I don't post things to be purposely malicious or usually directed at an individual, though there've been times I was banned for calling prommie trouble makers out. I feel like I've been brought into a world of problems. It's my goal to figure out the problems and when I pinpoint something and say it aloud it's like I've resurrected Hitler. Heh Heh. I can't say that, can't do that, can't think that, but I do.

Yes, there are hordes of characters with multiple arms and I've always thought the example of examples was in Hindu... They have a character named Sheeva in Mortal Kombat? Hmm, wonder who that's modeled after, seeing as the Hindu have a god with a similar name and many arms. [Shiva]
Seems a strange conversation has started, because of my speculation. I have no defense in the case of having weird interests, but I know that. Curiosity killed the cat, what curiosity forgot was that the cat had 9 lives.

It took me a long time to figure out something about creativity, originality and curiosity. Creativity is taking from what we know and making something original- supposedly, let's say- but originality is hard to keep that way. Curiosity is like a need to find originality. I feel creative people and curious people approach "the original" in opposite ways. I think I've never really gotten along with creative people because of this. Is originality created or is it discovered? What it means as far as what I was saying is that I think I've found original things, things that make me think, so I collect them, I experiment on them and I use them. I make my madscientist army or whatnot. I've done creative things, I think everyone has by the literal definition, but I don't think of myself as a creative person and I feel that distinction is opaque- absolutely defining.

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 Post subject: Re: ↓ → qυιℓℓ & cαиvαs 【 αи σc нαиgσυт 】 ← ↑
Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 06:53    


Mikael Hart

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For me, being impressed means exceeding my expectations --doing/saying something that surprises or shocks me, but in a positive way. That's probably why I'm so hung up on Gen from Megan Whalen Turner's "The Thief." I wouldn't say that he's an entirely unpredictable character, but he always somehow manages to stay ten steps ahead.

In my role-playing experience, many RPers I've met tend to create characters heavily based on stereotypes. Though they're not all bad, the focus generally ends up going into the story for the original twists (and in my experience, "original" ain't all that "original" either.) I don't dislike it, but I do want something more --I want to do better than that myself, and I want a partner who shares the same sort of mentality.

Aha, some people think that online anonymity is a good excuse to skip out on the etiquette. Maybe that's the way I am too, at times, but it's certainly not the kind of person I want to be. I need to have some integrity and tact, and I would appreciate it if other people I meet share the sentiment.

Well, Moi likes horror and gore, I like... hm. I don't know if anything I like is weird --to me it's all subjective. I find that not so many people like religion (or at least, not the word "religion"), and I appreciate hands (but for aesthetic reasons), I like fishbones in art and fashion, I like deer, I like Moi. All those things seem normal to me. ._.

I don't think that the definition of "original" can be absolute --like "literacy" the term seems to vary depending on the person and the context.

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 Post subject: Re: ↓ → qυιℓℓ & cαиvαs 【 αи σc нαиgσυт 】 ← ↑
Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 06:55    


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whenever I stalk in here, you guys always have lengthy discussions .

I have no creativity whatsoever, so yea, i do go off sterotypes . It's a bit easier to develop a story if you're like me and dont have that much brainroom for all the creative juices .

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 Post subject: Re: ↓ → qυιℓℓ & cαиvαs 【 αи σc нαиgσυт 】 ← ↑
Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 07:06    


Mikael Hart

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Aha, to each his own. In the end, writing or drawing should be something you do because you enjoy doing it.

If you come in more often, you can see discussions of all sizes. :D

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Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 07:27    


Agito

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I actually stalk this thread a lot -.- .
i just dont post X D .

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Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 07:30    


Mikael Hart

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You should! D: I get bored on my own.

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Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 08:34    


Nuke

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I'm pretty sure impressed means the same thing to me as well. Though original doesn't seem to. I suppose I go by the literal meaning technically.

I have to be polite to people IRL, no matter how stupid or poorly they behave. That's business mannerism for the most part. I expect people not to troll, flame or right out ignore net-etiquette, but I think I can be more to the point with people online. My mannerism changes depending on content. I surely don't discuss most of the things I do here on a gaming forum or in a game or a computer forum, even philosophy and such forums, although it sometimes feels a bit like that. It's groups of people like anywhere, if I'm in a school, a wedding, hanging out with friends, talking to customers, all different settings that demand their own manners.

Well, they seem like normal things to me too... that's a hard call for someone like me to make though, you know?

My theoretical point is that creativity and curiousity are definitely and absolutely different and possible ways of looking at things. Though originality is defined differently between these such individuals. Creative people see originality as something to strive for, something that can be made or maybe it's just idealistic. Many people think originality is creativity (which I don't agree with, not by the literal definition.) Curious people search for originality, things that are "new" or at least new to human (or own) knowingness. Sort like saying that at the same time a creative person creates a miniature monkey, a curious person finds a living minature monkey in the jungle. Either way we can say the monkey is original.

If words can't have a fairly fixed meaning, then they have no meaning at all. Originality, in my perception, is one of those words that's been stabbed, lying on the floor bleeding to death. Someday it'll have no meaning and no reason and be dead.

+Literally speaking, creativity is the ability to create something. It doesn't matter if that something is original or new or not. Original is defined as the first of something, the "new." The saying goes that there's nothing new under the sun, as far as ideas are concerned anyway. There are two ways originality can be viewed from that.

1. The First of something. The original Star Wars for instance or the original model of car, the original this or that. All that means is the first in a series, the one that started it all.

2. Original as newness. What is new? It can be the first thing, it can be things that are simply the beginning of something, but then there's the new of things we didn't know, but were always around. The originality I'm most concerned with is the second one, the one connected to the idea of newness via discovery. When we discover something new, it could be said to be original.

It still has to do with the order of something coming though. As far as creating newness or originals, there's only one way that can work, as far as what I've come across.

We'd all probably agree that the invention of the wheel and of the cart set the grounds for the eventual creation of cars. And of cars, we have old models of cars no longer being made and new models of cars. Each of these designs and models have a first, an original.

I don't go to a car museum and say that an old steam engine car is the original Ford Civic, because that's obviously not true and people would try to understand the comparison. Am I saying Civics are an ancient POS, is there something similar in the body style? Are they both made by Ford? No, probably not, when I say something is the original of something we expect to see some kind of resemblance. However, a Civic is a car and cars as we know them today are the descendants of cars, carts, and the wheel.

I find this true of every form of originality humans can Create. That is to say, everything has an ancestor. We only take from what we know and we can only build upon that, but building upon what is new creates a new new and an original. The form of a car is necessary for cars of today, though we make them differently and create originals.

The one thing that is exempt is the second definition of original newness. What is discovered. Like how birds were studied when people were first trying to make flying machines. I guess one could call it the originality of Nature or God, obviously depending on beliefs. We try to imitate that originality, we know it as the ultimate originality and create original things when our imitations prove to be lack luster. But then from those we create more things, different kinds, which makes them new and original.

For cars and planes we can see the importance of knowing the difference between cars for instance. A pick up truck serves a different function from a mini-van, SUV and limo. If I buy lumber and bring a limo to pick it up there's something unusual about the scenario. It could be considered original (that doesn't mean it's good or smart), because I'm using the limo for a different purpose, which it could probably serve, but I'm probably ruining it and having a difficult time loading it with wood in the meantime. That's sort of an adaptive mode of originality.

For a character you can take from a stereotype and make it into something original. A stereotype is our best imitation of easily understanding other people in a system. Like for instance, highschool stereotypes. In a story they serve different purposes, but when we use them for something outside their purpose they're more original in a good way since they're not utility tools. They're not necessarily bad or good.

Well, if that doesn't explain what I'm trying to say, I'll have to give up, since these posts are getting way too long and time consuming.

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Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 08:41    


Mikael Hart

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I'm pretty sure I must have some weird thing though... something I myself think is weird. Maybe it's something I'll realize when I stop thinking about it. XD

Um. I read everything, but I don't really have much of a response. XD;

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Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 21:05    


Nuke

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I suppose there isn't much to respond to, it's just theoretical, linguistic kind of stuff.

Something you think is weird of yourself?

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Posted: Jun 15th, '11, 23:04    


Mikael Hart

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Yeah.

I like how we don't reply to our conversations in order. XD

I'm making a new OC for Ocean's future hangout. :3 He's a crepe-boy.

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