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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 4th, '11, 11:43    


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Eldrika wrote:
Firn wrote:While I am not saying that it might not be true, that not the best idea, but the best art won last time, I only picked the entries which I considered convertible for their purpose and the user decided who won from the selected entries. While this still doesn't guarantee that the "best idea" and not the "best art" wins, this is the fairest method of picking a winner I can come up with. I consider it fairer to let the community pick the winners, than just one person - me.
If you know a fairer way of picking the winner(s) you are more than welcome to suggest it.


There is a fair way of doing it, its not very practical, but fair. Everyone who entered the contest could send their drawings and explainations to a site artist, that artist would then draw the entries you want people to vote on. That way the best idea would win and not the best art since the art would be from the same artist. Again I know this is not practical but its the fairest way.
Im sorry to bring this up again I was just hurt and disapointed in the last contest I entered. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the contest information said creativity and the best idea would win and then it just ended up as a regular art contest. I never would have entered it if I had known that.
Again Im sorry, I dont want to fight with you, you are a fantastic person and KOfK is a wonderful place.


I am not sure you are aware of this, but drawing a Knuffel takes from 5-15 hours. Considering we had over 50 entries that would mean 250-750 hours of work to me. I appreciate the effort, but you hopefully realize that this suggestion is in no way convertible.

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 5th, '11, 02:35    


Sukaretto

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That's great! No wonder I saw some avatars and thinking they looked VERY similar to that Knuffel.

Good luck to everyone participating! :qh:

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 5th, '11, 03:58    


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You know, since I want this set so badly, I find it oddly amusing and rather appropriate that MY Fire Gen. 5 knuffel is named Envy. xD

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 5th, '11, 10:51    


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It would be tragically funny if a) Firn decides to do another Knuffel set and b) you own the said Knuffel and c) you didn't get it and d) you named the previously mentioned Knuffel Covet. Though it wouldn't be following the theme of the seven deadly sins. :qlol:

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 5th, '11, 11:04    


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Ziaheart wrote:It would be tragically funny if a) Firn decides to do another Knuffel set and b) you own the said Knuffel and c) you didn't get it and d) you named the previously mentioned Knuffel Covet. Though it wouldn't be following the theme of the seven deadly sins. :qlol:


Haha, I think that would make me cry! xD

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 5th, '11, 16:09    


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lol. should have taken part of the contest after all. XD *laughs*

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 6th, '11, 06:46    


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D8 If only I'd known that there'd be a prize for entering! Now I have to sell my old MTs for it. XD;

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 6th, '11, 14:50    


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actually i m new...
can u tell me hw to submit?
i mean do we hav to submit our current knuffel?

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 6th, '11, 17:31    


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angel_tarika wrote:actually i m new...
can u tell me hw to submit?
i mean do we hav to submit our current knuffel?

I'm sorry, but this contest is already over. We are already voting for the winner... =(

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 Post subject: Re: Design a Knuffel Contest: Gifts for all participants!
Posted: Feb 8th, '11, 08:04    


Eldrika

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Firn wrote:
Eldrika wrote:
Firn wrote:While I am not saying that it might not be true, that not the best idea, but the best art won last time, I only picked the entries which I considered convertible for their purpose and the user decided who won from the selected entries. While this still doesn't guarantee that the "best idea" and not the "best art" wins, this is the fairest method of picking a winner I can come up with. I consider it fairer to let the community pick the winners, than just one person - me.
If you know a fairer way of picking the winner(s) you are more than welcome to suggest it.


There is a fair way of doing it, its not very practical, but fair. Everyone who entered the contest could send their drawings and explainations to a site artist, that artist would then draw the entries you want people to vote on. That way the best idea would win and not the best art since the art would be from the same artist. Again I know this is not practical but its the fairest way.
Im sorry to bring this up again I was just hurt and disapointed in the last contest I entered. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the contest information said creativity and the best idea would win and then it just ended up as a regular art contest. I never would have entered it if I had known that.
Again Im sorry, I dont want to fight with you, you are a fantastic person and KOfK is a wonderful place.


I am not sure you are aware of this, but drawing a Knuffel takes from 5-15 hours. Considering we had over 50 entries that would mean 250-750 hours of work to me. I appreciate the effort, but you hopefully realize that this suggestion is in no way convertible.


you only have to draw the winner. People submit their entries and an artist (not you) draws the ones you pick for voting. the drawings for the votings doesnt have to be incredible works of art, they can be stick figures. The art isnt important the idea is. That is what I meant.
Like I said its not practical and I never expected you to do this but you asked for a fair way of doing it and this is the most fair way.

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