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Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 26th, '15, 10:37
by CycloneKira
As long as it's enough for people to live, I guess.
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 26th, '15, 11:54
by Jessicat
Well, it's certainly not common for anyone to die of poverty in England, so I guess it generally works :)
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 26th, '15, 12:47
by CycloneKira
That's good :) I would like to say the same for India, but... it would probably be false :c
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 26th, '15, 13:36
by Dearest
Yeah. People starving to death in Bihar and places are always on the news.
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 26th, '15, 14:16
by Jessicat
It's very sad. But India is a much bigger country... and it has a lot to do with political ideologies amongst other things. I'm sure the British Empire didn't much help in India's case.
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 27th, '15, 14:45
by CycloneKira
Political ideologies, ha! They all revolve around making unnecessary stuff like buildings that aren't needed and the like.
And the British Raj... yeah, not much of a help. But sometimes I get the feeling that India might not be very advanced, technologically, if it weren't for the British Raj.
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 28th, '15, 17:18
by Jessicat
That's what I was getting at. It makes me angry when the British treat other countries as if they were less advanced or less able just because they're poorer when often those countries are poor because the British looted them. Though I would contest the idea that Japan resisted colonisation as such. After WW2 under American occupation Japan underwent what's termed the only instance of 'self-colonisation' to have happened... So technological advancement is almost entirely a colonial thing.
I totally agree with you about technology. Whilst I'm not against technology (look at me typing here on my computer), it seems a completely fallacious criteria that advancement can only be measured by industrialisation and technological advancement when these things often come with the drawback of losing something important. Things like a native ability to live in harmony with nature (this is also an example that applies to Japan).
Corruption might not be unrelated either. It tends to be endemic in countries that have been previously colonised, mainly because when the colonial forces withdraw they leave behind a power vacuum, or a bunch of politicians who were already willing to suck up to foreign influence during the colonial period.
Can't change history, but it's pretty important to be clear how messed up the world is thanks to the repercussions of colonisation by Europe...
Look at me essaying....
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 28th, '15, 17:27
by Vineda
Don't worry. I totally get it
Luckily the only colony we had was already messed up because we had it secondhand (apprently before that it was property of our king himself and kept seperate from our government) so we're well aware we messed up BIGTIME
but I notice most countries aren't like that. They only see the 'good' they think they did....
I stopped studying English at university cause their course was FAR too chauvinistic... I couldn't stand it... it did make me wonder, if it's already that bad abroad, how bad is it in the country itself?
Re: ☯ The Otaku Shrine ☯
Posted: Jul 28th, '15, 18:55
by Jessicat
Well, I do English at university in England... I lecture actually, and I haven't got much to go on other than what you say, but it's not at all bad over here. There's almost a hyper-awareness of feminism and post-colonialism and such.