Hey! I'm overall okay with the new layout- Everything is still attractive and clean and easy to find. But like other people have commented, the white is very jarring. Can we please make things a little less bright?

Agito wrote:Hmm I persnoally liked it better with the avatar on top then the information of the account underneath. It was more on line with the textbox and easier to reference.
Also think I liked the darker color better; at the same time i barely remember what the layout was before our last layout remake and I got used to that one haha.
I dont like the font of the headings though; the rest of the text on the site is still sans serif. I really appreciate the veritcal menu now. Gonna make mobile so much easier haha.

I dont know how i feel about it; it was a shock coming to this after a week or so of not coming on. Oh well, I guess I will see how this goes. The white makes the whole page look so much emptier :U

I agree with all of these things! I like the darker colors better and preferred the old way with the avatar on the top and the text stuff on bottom, but I do like the new drop-downs.

As for making the menu font sans serif hmmm... there is something off with it, but perhaps it just needs to be bolded? Like if it were bold and the drop-downs were NOT bold, then the serif-ness of it might be better.

It is a pretty menu though, and those little side-fancies are cute.

Edit: nevermind im sure someone else will point it out.

Thank you for all your work here, the new design is really pretty ! And the drop-down menus are soooo much easier to use! I've been waiting for this *__*.... *is happy*
I don't have any problem with the white background... it kindda makes the site more "heaven-like", and that's a very good point considering it's supposed to be a fantasy realm ^^. And the little trees on the corners are very cute~

sO wEiRd! O.o It's pretty though. Change is just hard. lol

Firn wrote:I said this a couple of pages before already:

Please fix your monitor calibration, if the white is hurting your eyes. This is not normal.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS/MO ... IBRATE.HTM This link contains helpful images to show you whether your callibration is good or not. Basically, if you cannot see at least 6 different shades (including the all white row in the midle) on the picture whit the white shaded squares, your calibration is off.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/607444/t ... -the-gamma This explains how to adjust your gamma settings

http://lifehacker.com/5109252/online-mo ... -and-tools Here are a few free test patterns to check and also free tools (which I haven't trid out, admittingly, so I cannot say anything about the quality or usefulness of them)

If you just Google for "white color on screen too bright" you will find many other sites that might be helpful to you.

You should really take the time and check this out. I am not saying this just because of KOfK, but because, if the white BG is causing your problems here, so will every other site with a white background (which there are a LOT of, take Google for example), as well as white word documents and all other kind of things on your screen. So it's really worth fixing this issue for you, so you can have a better experience with your computer.



I will think about whether we can integrate a bit more of the blue from the sky into the background, but as for the color itself, I won't change it, because white leaves me much more possibilities to work with the layout.

Sure, screens shouldn't hurt your eyes, but that's because website designers should take into account that in the natural world humans aren't supposed to be sitting within a few feet of giant boxes of light all day, just staring into them. Sure, Google is too bright as well and always has been, and just because Google does it doesn't mean it's okay. I've been wishing they'd change that crap for years. >.<

In general though site-brightness is not a problem, because most people (or at least I) don't spend hours on Google and other bright sites. The sites I spend hours and hours and hours are either dark or allow a choice of themes, in which case I choose darker ones.

Because my screen is big, I put it on its lowest possible brightness setting (I can see all the white squares by the way). All my browsers are only open to half-size so that half my screen is the desktop background, which is black. Right now I'm in a well-lit room and it's still too bright, but not PAINFUL, but I shudder to think what might happen when I turn lights off!

No seriously, it's not that bad. It's just a smidge too much. (Admittedly I do hate the daytime and in an ideal version of KOfK I'd like something like for those trees to be moonlit with a starry sky behind them so it was completely night-time, but they ARE pretty so I'm not bitching too much.)

Anyway. Since you're dead-set against making it darker and this is one of my spend-hours-on-it sites, then I guess my solution is to leave up the Knuffel-feed page I had up before the change so it still shows the nice old green, and to just never ever ever refresh or close it. Until the day I have to restart and get the new bright page there, in which case I suppose my Knuffels will starve to death. HA. (Seriously, good thing they can't die because that would just be awful.)

First link has some good information. I can distinguish all the shades as mentioned, but the grey square that is supposed to have a uniform colour does not for me. So I guess something is off. However, that page is only showing me expensive software that will fix this problem.

Second link is for Ubuntu users. I'm honestly not sure how many people use that OS, but I don't, so this is not helpful. ^^;

Third link is more tests.

I will do some googling and see what I can find, but as it is I cannot stay on KofK for very long because it's giving me some intense headaches.

edit;; Came across this which may be useful for people: http://www.calibrize.com/
I've been messing with it for a while but I still can't get things to look how they're supposed to. |D I'm ready to give up for the night, my head hurts so bad.