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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 01:02    


Popodoki

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What mercu, Alice and Necro said, and more; you need to tone down your attitude, and like Alice said, that has nothing to do with your age.

I'm very sorry that you are not a personal fan of the Ganguro eyes. But there is nothing wrong with them. And I will not take your 'artistic eye' as proof of the contrary, if you don't mind. And neither does Firn, and that is her full right, as the main artist of this entire site. Whom you are quite unnecessarily offending by pursuing such a pointless discussion.

Just to throw in my two cents: the right eye touches the side of the head. That was your entire argument, yes? Well so does the darn eye on the avatar next to it. Would you say that's too long for you as well and make such a childish bloody fuss about it? Honestly.

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 10:05    


Hibari97

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@Alice

1. There is no need to report me, because I didn't INSULTED anyone or broke the rules of KofK so don't get offensive and overreact.
It's just my opinion and well, sure my art is a reason when she insults me using my art in that way. And if she also talks about me (as an artist) and she additionally said "to not insult anybody" (what one of my friends showed me and it sounded alot like it!) :well, you don't have to be a good artist to write some critics anyway. Then. I'm. not. very. amused.

@mercu+necro+Toten
Nobody said it's about age!
I just mentioned it because I wanted to say that why can a younger person show more respect to an older than an older can to a younger one. (though it doesn't matter which age you are, you shouldn't get offensive. never.) Just my last post was written not neutral, yes I agree, but I said if something really upsets her I'm sorry for that! I'm not staying mute if someone dares to insult me that badly on the personal and not the objective level

The only reason I started to write in German is because I can't understand why I should write something to her in English, if it's something directly adressed to her and I can't write it in a pm because she doesn't liiiiike them. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted it here and my English skills aren't the best btw. so if I really want to complain I want to do it in my native language.

So stop being offensive. I never said I want the item to be changed that badly. It was a try and I understand that. Other facts about that whole situation are annoying me and you really don't get the point.. or at least it looks like it.

Don't want to add anything (and now I'm acting like Firn, well end of discussion. Don't wanna talk about it anymore. I know it's not kind to ignore all the post from now on, but neither it is of Firn. So. Accept it.)

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 11:37    


AliceON

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I totally accept that you want to ignore all the posts from now on but you actually were insulting even if you don't see this

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 11:48    


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mercu wrote: i'm not sure who you've been talking to, but so far, in this thread, only one person agrees with your view.
Who happens to be her own mule. :mcwink: (edit: Or her bf)

Either way, I think, not only has there been said all that is to be said about this topic, but way more than should have been said. I appreciate a lot that so many people are stepping in in my defence and understand my point, but think we should all rest this topic as it is not leading anywhere.
If neither party can agree with the other, then, once all arguments have been said, it usually is the smartest thing to just agree to disagree.

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 12:21    


Hibari97

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It isn't my mule -.-
I don't even have one.
Be sure you know what you're talking about before telling nonsense.

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 13:56    


Popodoki

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Firn wrote:
mercu wrote: i'm not sure who you've been talking to, but so far, in this thread, only one person agrees with your view.
Who happens to be her own mule. :mcwink: (edit: Or her bf)

Either way, I think, not only has there been said all that is to be said about this topic, but way more than should have been said. I appreciate a lot that so many people are stepping in in my defence and understand my point, but think we should all rest this topic as it is not leading anywhere.
If neither party can agree with the other, then, once all arguments have been said, it usually is the smartest thing to just agree to disagree.
Agreed c:

All in all I just want to thank you Firn for being so clear-headed and mature about situations like this. We really do appreciate all that you do for us! <3

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 15:23    


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Firn you are absolutely amazing and I want to give you such a squishy hug! I can't do that but I wish I could! You're the best and truly an inspiration :qh:

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 20:27    


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i love it! super cute

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 20:48    


Blood_Yagami

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Before reading keep in mind that:
- i'm just trying to explain my point of view
- i'm not insulting anyone (i'm sorry if anyone might feel insulted)


mercu wrote:i'm not really sure what you said in your last post, since i don't speak german, but i did read the whole argument and i did throw what you just said into the google translator to get the general gist, and... you seem to be pretty rude here.
"you seem to be rude" ??? Sorry, but if you don't understand german you shouldn't rely on the google translator and jump to conclusions...
she was NOT rude, she even apologized for everything that could SOUND rude :mcsweat:
mercu wrote: plus, yes, an artist should be able to receive critic, but that's not what you're doing here.
you really don't get the point.
she admitted that her 1-year-old art isn't perfect and it's not the critique which upsets her...
please don't enter the discussion without even understanding the issues/arguments :mccute:

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necroshear wrote:Seriously Hibari, tone it down a notch. You're not proving anything here, except that you want every item to be like YOU want it.
Well news flash lady, it's not gonna happen. Not now, not ever.
necroshear wrote:and typing in another language (nonetheless it being Firn's own mothertongue) is really low. It either means you're too lazy to actually type in english, or you don't want everyone to understand what you're saying, because you just know you're being rude and offensive.
while she tried to write as neutral as possible and even apologized for everything YOU just shared your opinion in an ironic and way more offensive style...
do you understand german? do you get her point?(no...)

Totenveloren1 wrote:that has nothing to do with your age.
i'm tired of repeating myself but please ask her what she wrote if you don't understand german instead of jumping to conclusions...please... ~.~
Firn wrote:mercu wrote:
i'm not sure who you've been talking to, but so far, in this thread, only one person agrees with your view.

Who happens to be her own mule. (edit: Or her bf)
1.) I'm NOT her mule!(mule OR bf? so being her boyfriend is the same as being her mule? :/ )

2.)She has been talking to several people but just because they aren't the discussion in this thread doens't mean that i'm the only one who shares her opinion (and btw, it wasn't her who told me about the eye, i noticed it myself)

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btw, why was Hibari97 reported?(and by who!?) Can someone Quote or explain what she did wrong?
after reading all the other posts it's really confusing me because she wasn't as rude as other people were...



I don't say that it's a bad thing defending firn if you share her opinion but people ( especially people who write things like :
thank you Firn for being so clear-headed and mature about situations like this.
)
shouldn't be so offending if you ask me..
it's unnecessary to just repeat the arguments of people and it can be done in a nicer way....

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 Post subject: Re: January's Monthly Treasure: Ganguro
Posted: Jan 3rd, '14, 20:57    


casey

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Reports are anonymous to all except the mods to protect the privacy or those who have reported the user/post. The grounds of the report were harrassment, I believe, which is probable cause since Firn said nicely that there was no point discussing the issue further and Hibari continued to do so pages after Firn said she was done talking about it. That was unecessary and quite rude because it's one thing to not like the position of the eye, it's another to try to force Firn to change it on the grounds of "I'm an artist".

Everybody needs to drop this subject, specially you two for your own good. If you don't like the eye, don't use it.

Also, both necroshear and totenveloren1 understand germanic languages. Whatever conclusions they came to, they're in context.

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