It's about power, not liking him.

Yes. Keep on keeping on, Moi.

Pwale that is pretty messed up about N. Carolina. Jesus never thought that would happen today but I've seen too much to be this blind I guess you could say. I just hope he doesn't do anything too horrible and he only lasts 4 years instead of the norm. God I can only hope right now. Glad to hear that alot of people though are already preparing. Too bad I won't really find that in Ohio. Majority of the damn people here voted for him. Of course living here now; I've seen so much difference and not in a good way from Wisconsin. And I still in shock my own home state voted that moron.... Time will only tell how things will turn out. I just hope it's for the good.

I'm glad to hear that Moi, here's to more people with that type of thinking.

Sunlight wrote:

Pwale wrote:It's about power, not liking him.

I don't know about that. I mean, just because you want power doesn't mean you're going to give idiot psychopaths the all-clear to launch nuclear missiles at everyone or anything crazy like that. I think it makes more sense for them to use Trump as a figurehead and do what they want rather than give him free-reign, especially if power is what they're after.

Unfortunately, Congress and the Senate do not get to make foreign policy decisions. That power belongs entirely to the Executive Branch. So long as there is no official declaration of war, which does have to be approved by Congress, Trump can do whatever he wants. The last time we officially declared war was after Pearl Harbor during WWII. The Vietnam War, the Gulf War and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq all happened without approval from Congress. Congress and the Senate did approve military actions in Iraq, but the war effort didn't actually need their approval to move forward. With the advent of drones, Executive military power has grown even larger. If the military officials disobey Trump's orders, a remote possibility as he has threatened to order the military to commit war crimes, he can fire them and replace them with someone who will. And only the President--and NO ONE else--gets to decide when and where to use nuclear weapons. If Trump gives the order, no one has the authority to stop him from dropping a nuclear bomb.

Plus, thirst for power is the only reason people have done horrible things in the past. History repeats itself.

Also, the Republican policy agendas would have a terrible impact on my life. I would be unable to get health insurance (I'm disabled and the Affordable Care Act protects me) and they would also torture and electrocute me for having romantic relationships with other women (so-called "conversion therapy"). I'm not exaggerating. "Conversion therapy" is a form of torture. And it's not unusual in American policy either. We're only a few decades removed from a time when being discovered to be gay meant you were lobotomized or forcibly sterilized. We're only 50 years from Stonewall, when cops could raid gay bars and rape lesbians without consequence "to teach them a lesson." We're only 30 years away from a time when hospitals kicked men and women dying of AIDS into the streets because they were gay.

The Republicans also want to decimate voting rights, overturn Roe v Wade and Obergefell v Hodge.

They deny climate change and want to increase use of fossil fuels, which would accelerate the rate of sea rise and decimate the environment.

And the fact that they will not even discuss common sense gun reform (reforms like, if you have a known history of violent behavior, you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. Or, you shouldn't be able to buy guns out of pick up trucks in parking lots. Or if you own a gun and you also have a toddler, you should make sure the toddler can't get the gun when you're not around. You know. Crazy liberal daydreams.) means that you can expect the rate of mass shootings to continue to rise.

And that's just the tip of the ice berg. Regardless of anyone's personal views on any of these issues, it is an empirical fact that if any of these policies came to fruition I would personally suffer as a direct result. Not to mention millions upon millions of others.

saiyouri wrote:Pwale that is pretty messed up about N. Carolina. Jesus never thought that would happen today but I've seen too much to be this blind I guess you could say. I just hope he doesn't do anything too horrible and he only lasts 4 years instead of the norm. God I can only hope right now. Glad to hear that alot of people though are already preparing. Too bad I won't really find that in Ohio. Majority of the damn people here voted for him. Of course living here now; I've seen so much difference and not in a good way from Wisconsin. And I still in shock my own home state voted that moron.... Time will only tell how things will turn out. I just hope it's for the good.

I'm glad to hear that Moi, here's to more people with that type of thinking.

Yeah, how are things going in your state? My blue state is mostly either heartbroken or furious. Usually both at the same time.

Trump couldn't overturn marriage equality even if he wanted to. But the Republican controlled Congress and Senate could. Then the human and civil rights groups would have to file a case against the law. The case would have to work it's way back up to the Supreme Court and then if Trump picks the next Supreme Court justice that individual could be counted on to vote against marriage equality, as Trump has said he will only nominate the most conservative judges.

Again, with the ACA, it is the same situation. Trump cannot cancel Obamacare. While he could sign an executive order, it would be immediately challenged in court and the order would most likely be stayed at least temporarily. Congress and the Senate can repeal the Affordable Care Act and then Trump signs the new law. I suggest checking out Paul Ryan's plans to end Medicare. http://www.salon.com/2016/11/15/paul-ry ... is-moment/

So long as Trump keeps signing the laws that conservative Republicans in Congress want passed (repeal Obamacare, privatize Social Security, overturn campaign finance and environmental regulations, etc.) they most likely will not interfere with the things that DO fall under his purview.

Checks and balances don't work when one group is in control of all the levers of power.