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Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 07:01
by Dearest
That's so interesting, Akili. I do love baking, too, even though I'm a total noob at it. Both you and Doki are making me excited about cooking. My mom will be happy
although, she wants me to learn our traditional cooking, of which I only enjoy certain dishes.
I'm vegetarian most of the time though and vegan whenever I can be, so I'll see whether I can replace the eggs you used with something else, Akili. I also don't easily find most of the spices you used, but I can experiment with my local ones. Doki, instead of meat I suppose I can use soy? We don't get vegan meats here but I can probably just put soy nuggets or thin slabs.
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 07:13
by Akili Li
If the flour you are using is one of the more high-gluten flours, which binds together better, then you can just leave out the eggs without needing any substitute at all! (any wheat flour should hold itself together just fine, or if you can actually get powdered gluten on its own then you could add it to any other type of flour and it would work, too)
:)
I pretty much just threw in a couple of eggs because the flours I was using weren't wheat flours and I knew they would fall apart without some help, and I didn't want to use that chewy, gluey-texture from working up the starches too much.
If you were doing it in muffin cups or small loaf pans or something else confined, you also wouldn't need it to hold itself together as much, and could leave it out without worrying about flours.
Maybe you can make a deal with your mom where every time you cook with her, you cook one traditional dish and one thing you're interested in trying? Then you can slowly be expanding her repertoire at the same time you are learning how to cook, and if you happen to be practicing on dishes that you aren't so very fond of....
well....
when you're first starting, the first dishes don't tend to turn out anyhow! "Small loss", as they say. Since you didn't like them to begin with it won't matter if they don't turn out perfectly while you're still learning

Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 07:24
by Dearest
So whole wheat flour should be fine, right? If I really want it to bind I can use flaxseed in water, like I use in cake recipes. I was thinking about using millets but they have like, no gluten, so I'll just use wheat flour lol.
I really should tell my mom that, that's a great idea! Right now her attitude has been that at least I'm an improvement from before, where I was nervous about and disliked just, cooking in general. She's kind of like, fine, start with what you like or are interested in and then we'll work on getting you to feel like that about the family cooking as well
if I asked her to do this with me, though, she'd be pretty happy I think. Because she'd get me to cook the things she wants as well. So far it's been like, with some scolding, I'll watch her while she cooks. And with more scolding, I'll chip in when she wants me to. 
Yeah, I know it's unavoidable with first dishes but it still sucks lol. The first time I made carrot cake, we used parchment paper but we didn't know we had to grease it. Like it's such elementary baking knowledge that nobody mentions it, but we had no idea. So the bottom of the cake burned and the parchment paper stuck to it and... the cake was otherwise beautiful, so it sucked
imagine, I didn't even know that you had to wait for the cake to cool before cutting it! We were all enthusiastic about eating cake warm from the oven, and ended up eating very crumbly, falling-apart slices
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 08:36
by Akili Li
whole wheat flour would absolutely be fine. If you discover it's too crumbly, yeah, flaxseed in water (or chia seed in water, or basil seed in water, or a number of options like that) would also help. :)
Millets plus the flaxseed would work, if you wanted!
ha ha ha, I've done the same thing! There's just something about hot-from-the-oven food, I almost always don't wait long enough. >.<
Actually you were part right on the parchment paper thing, though. Many recipes aren't quite so "sticky" and so you don't actually need to grease the parchment paper at all, and it will peel off just fine. It's only on the recipes that have stickier dough that you have to do the whole, "grease well, and ALSO dust flour, and be GENEROUS with both, and maybe ALSO parchment paper first" thing. Even with all the precautions my treacle cakes tend to want to hang on to the pans....
Carrot cake sounds good, though, and it sounds like you at least got to eat the top part okay? Was that part at least good?
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 09:14
by LittleJulez
Hey guys :)
I hope you're all well!
I can't help it, but when I read "Treacle cake" I had to think about Harry Potter

Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 10:37
by Akili Li
There's treacle cake in Harry Potter? Well, why wouldn't there be, it's good stuff, after all. I mostly think about impatiently waiting for the fig harvest every year to have treacle cake with fresh figs in it.
And then overeating it because it is just too delicious to resist and having tummy-aches and having to finish the harvest while trying to stay curled up, and then not being able to resist making and eating more treacle-cake anyhow, despite the tummy-aches.
I love treacle-cake sooooo much
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 11:13
by LittleJulez
They speak of treacle tarts (I think?) in the first Harry Potter book :)
I love figs! I discovered my liking for them just last year... I want more of them >.<
I can totally relate to that, I always do that xD
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 12:47
by Dearest
Hot-from-the-oven just can't be recreated by heating it later. It's different. Better. So woe
After that experience I think I'll always take the precautions, lol. I'm no judge and nobody in my family bakes either so better be on the safe side. I recall that the carrot cake dough WAS very wet, though. The grated carrots released a lot of water. But it was also supposed to be an almost pasty batter. Oh well, the tops did turn out fine, to answer your question; they turned out great actually! But the cinnamon taste came on too strong, and my mother said it's because the recipe I'd looked up was Western, and usually the Indian counterparts of the very same Western spices are a lot stronger. I learned multiple things from that one partly-failed recipe
Ooh, I'd love to try using figs in baking, and from the couple of times I've been able to have them, I think they'd be wonderful in a jam or preserve of some sort. (One of the experiments with cooking things I'm interested in, included banana jam. And that turned out wonderful, I used brown sugar instead of white and that gave the bananas a caramelised feel, and some vanilla essence. The end result was a jam was sweet, but not too sweet- it had a buttery spice that offset the sweet. Anyway, after that I want to try more jams lol.) However I don't know if it'll be possible, most of the time we find figs only in dried form.
Speaking of jams though (which I know is a topic I went onto entirely on my own
but even so) do y'all know an easy recipe for marmalade? That's got to be my favourite kind of jam, and I'm also allergic to jam unless it's homemade, but the recipes I've seen so far have been... intimidating. Lol.
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 13:43
by Akili Li
aaah, I should be asleep already!
I'm not sure about easy recipe, at least partly because I rarely work from actual recipes.
But here's what I usually do...
I start by washing the citrus fruit (usually orange, but sometimes I do lemon instead or in addition, as a mix), cut it in half, take out the seeds, and slice it into half-circles. I try and let the juice run off into the pot I'm going to use, every so often, while I do that. The pulp part goes into the pot, but if possible I fish out the harder stringy membranes.
The rind I cut further, then that goes into the pot, too.
Then I make a sugar syrup, about 1:1 (sugar:orange juice; but if you do it separate and then add to the pot, make it more like 2:1, because you should have a fair bit of liquid in the pot already), in the same pot and enough to cover it, and bring it up to a brisk boil and then reduce and simmer until the rinds turn translucent, and then stop!. Citrus in general will become bitter if you cook it too long.
Now, some people just add gelatin or pectin at that point and that's all they're doing, they're done. Maybe they fancy it up with a tiny hint of grated allspice or a teaspoon of bitters, whatever.
Those people tend NOT to use the whole rind of the fruit, because that's too much rind for the juice. Either they add more juices/sugar syrup, or they don't use all the rind.
The proportions I gave you are more for making candied orange peels.
Me, I actually make my "marmalade" to be about half and half this, with all the orange peel and no extra juice, and apricot jam. Apricot-orange marmalade is my favorite! So once I have the candied orange rinds part, I just do the regular apricot jam, and mix the two together.
*note: I tend to like my jams on the not-as-sweet side, which means they don't keep as well, so I always have to keep it cool and it won't last as long, but then we tend to eat them pretty quick anyhow. If you eat your marmalade slower, then do some research first because I don't think this will work very well for you.
I tend to only make it once or twice a year, honestly.
Re: [Helping Hand] ~ Monthly raffle CLOSED ♥
Posted: Jan 14th, '19, 21:41
by Popodoki
I've been telling myself all day to set up my art contest thread but god I'm so tired X.x
today has been super productive and I feel like my systems are crashing now xD