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Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 25th, '21, 14:58
by Amura
Well, part of the alcohol evaporates with the cooking. Not all.
And it's the cooking time (not the temperature) that makes the difference. If you cook something with alcohol for an hour or more, it's gonna have much less alcohol. But if you cook it for a just a few minutes you won't be rid of much.

I've heard very often that myth, and anyone who has even drank a queimada knows it's not true.
A queimada (lit: burned) is a typical beverage in my country. It's made with an usually-homemade (and VERY strong) liquor called aguardiente (lit: fire water), sugar and usually a pinch of lemon/orange and coffee.
Then we burn it.
Yes, we burn it. Like this:
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The queimada is part of a tradition which includes doing it in the dark, while reciting an incantation to keep the evil spirits away. So it really burns for a while.
The pottery for making it and also for serving must be high-temperature resistant. Yes, it's still burning while it's served!

And know what? After all that burning, it's still an extremely alcoholic beverage.
So, no, cooking for 10 minutes does not get rid of much alcohol. It just gets rid of the aftertaste.



When I visisted Holland I was surprised to find classic liquorice so readily avaliable. We bought it in some market stalls. (I don't love it, I eat a bit and that's it.)
Here it's not easy to find.
Usually you just find the sweet candy one, and not nearly as often as the red one anyway.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 25th, '21, 21:05
by Moi

Well, there's only one way to find out if it'd hurt my stomach 8u
I'm willing to risk it xD

I know black liquorice has a numbing effect u8
I don't really care for it, though xD;

I've seen people light drinks on fire, but I don't know if they were the same as you posted 8u

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 25th, '21, 22:23
by Amura
Probably not the same one (this is a local tradition, as far as I know there is nothing similar elsewhere) but the effect on the alcohol % will be roughly the same.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 26th, '21, 01:35
by Moi

The fire is pretty either way 8D /pyro

I wish I could drink beer. It's the only alcoholic drink I like.
My family has alcoholism running rampant through our bloodline so I guess it's good I can't drink.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 26th, '21, 08:47
by Amura
Alcohol burning in the night is such a pretty sight.
Flames are mostly blue, so it has some magical feel to it.


I don't drink any alcohol.
I did when I was younger, but I sincerely don't care about it anymore.
As I've grown unused to it I've realized that the taste is no longer interesting for me. So now it's very easy to be an abstainer.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 26th, '21, 20:50
by Moi

I LOVE blue fire. I don't know if you remember when Firn had the fire knuffel contest and I won. I was so glad my pretty blue fire knuffel won.
Fire is gorgeous but the blue fire is way prettier xD

I drank a bit when I was younger. My mom was an alcoholic at the time and she'd buy me Bailey's Irish Cream and I was probably...16?
I hate it now. I hate most alcohol because of the burning sensation it gives when I drink it.
It's really obnoxious and I hate it.
The only alcohol that doesn't do that is beer and I love the taste of beer.
I'd even drink non-alcoholic beer.
My grandpa was an alcoholic and when he quit, he'd buy the non-alcoholic kind and we'd drink it together.
At the Mexican restaurant with the lego table, my parents drank margaritas, so I got to taste those at an early age too. Hated 'em Bu
My dad also let me sip beer when I was little and I liked it.
Sooooo I'd honestly love a beer every once in a while, but a non-alcoholic one.
I can't have them here because my mom and aunt were both alcoholics once and even if it's non-alcoholic I don't want it near them.


Sorry to be a downer, but I've been thinking since yesterday. Since addiction seems fused to my family's genetics, I wonder if we were all doomed at birth.
So many family members of mine have been addicts. I even have addiction problems to stuff.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 26th, '21, 21:54
by Amura
Well, genetics are not supposed to foreordain anything.
They just imply a certain predisposition, which may or may not lead you to a certain path.
If your life had been different, if your circumstances and experiences had been different, your genetics would also display different expressions.

And sometimes what's for worse, might have been for better in other completely different situation.
Like this book, which proposes that some people may be extremely fragile in stressful enviroments but also extremely brilliant in nurturing ones.


I guess it's possible that there is a certain predisposition towards addiction in your family. In mine we have it towards depression.
But it's not like we are doomed, we just are handicaped. We still can do our best!

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 27th, '21, 03:22
by Moi

I know why addiction exists.
I've learned to get to know it because of my family.
Addiction is a sickness and not many people understand that.

It's sad because people can't or don't want to deal with something so they turn to drugs, alcohol, food, games, etc.
This item gives them happiness they don't normally have and they become addicted to the happiness they get.
No more addiction means no more happiness and they refuse to quit.

I guess it's more of a learned behavior. Considering the action is passed down, it makes sense as to why it continues.
My parents were addicts so I became an addict and if I ever had kids, they'd likely become addicts.
It's like how a lot of my family has fiery tempers.
You grow up around people like that, so you become like that too.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 27th, '21, 16:26
by Amura
I agree.

But considering it's a bit of everything (inherited, behaviour) there are some things you simply can't change and others you can.
It's like a cards game. You can't change the cards you're dealt, but you can try different strategies with them.

And I guess there is the luck factor too, just like in cards games.

Re: [ Amura's house on a tree ]

Posted: Sep 27th, '21, 21:03
by Moi

I'm honestly surprised my bloodline has lasted this long.
Alcoholism, drug addiction, numerous illnesses passed down.
In fact, I went to the eye doctor and this man was asking me if I have family history of numerous ailments and I said "Yes." and he said "Which ones?" and I said "All of them ._."

My mom ended up going to prison because she got addicted to pills and stole money.
She did her time and she came out clean and happier - she doesn't even smoke anymore.
She told me something I'd never thought of before and it's sad.

When a person is addicted to a drug, the more they use it the more their body gets used to it so they need to take more and more.
I knew that, but what I didn't know was that if you stop taking them for a while - your body resets.
So if you were taking like 80 pain pills a day and didn't take any for a few years, if you tried to take 80 again - you will overdose and die.
So a lot of people overdose because they're not aware that they can't take what they were taking before they quit.
It's really sad.

You know, I used to hate addicts too. I grew up around them and they even stole stuff from me to sell to get money to pay for more drugs.
They neglected me and also hurt me sometimes and I hated it.
As an adult and having experienced addiction too - I know what it is and it's sad.
I feel sympathy for addicts because it is a sickness.
I remember defending an addict and someone responded saying "Let's see how you feel when one robs you blind!"
I'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN.
I've lived with addicts - you ain't going to tell me something I don't know.
I will always have sympathy for them.
I went to an NA meeting with my mom and all these people were talking about how drugs and alcohol ruined their lives and relationships and it was hard for me not to cry.
These poor people xD

When I feel down or like quitting, I think about my ancestors. They had their land and whole culture taken from them and destroyed. They were warriors and they fought and I'm here because of that.
I think about my family member who was put into a concentration camp because he didn't agree with the Nazis and he survived and I'm here because of that.