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Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:02
by Lilandra
Why would I post here and show everyone what these items were valued at if I just cheated someone? That doesn't make any sense. I knew that 1 top was sold very cheap. 1, not more. I saw a bid today in an auction (that you mentioned, too) for 35k and we don't know if that's the last bid. Most people value the top at least at 30k, some even at more, only 1 person sold it way below that. Shinji gave a range of 35k-40k, which is more than the normal price, sure, but not extremely high. I could've also written 35k in my update, but that probably wouldn't have made a difference. I didn't say that you should enter that value into the guide, I only wrote it as an update so you would know, there are people who value it lower, others who value it higher, and give a range in your guide as you usually do.
I don't see what I did wrong, seriously.

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:05
by Themis
I agree, the guide is as up to date as can be right now as prices are fluctuating on some items and it's hard to determine what a good price rang for them should be right now until the prices become more grouped. The top hasn't been sold for 40k since it first came out so you were very lucky to get that much for it and I don't believe Kurai was being mean or not nice or was implying that you ripped him off, just that he was miss informed and could have tried to negotiate more if he knew about the current price situation.
Things are hard to keep on for prices when you don't sell often.

Just like when people sell old items that haven't been sold for long users try and say well the guide says this.. When really that's an old price and can't be updated because the items haven't been sold for a long time. Like the Devil items for instance. The prices seemed very accurate at the time, but once the items were sold we learned the prices jumped a lot because they are rare and the price was adjusted as needed. I think Kurai is doing a pretty good job keeping up with the prices and keeping the guide to date and users informed.

You're right though that users can of course value items at whatever they feel is right or what they would prefer to pay for them. I myself do it, specially with sets and Fairy Items. I value the fairy items very low and try to buy them for low, but if people aren't willing to sell or want to know why I value them so low I let them know.

Lilandra we're not saying you did anything wrong at all :mcconf:

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:06
by Kurai9Angel
i wasn't implying you did anything wrong and i'm sorry if i came across in that manner x.x;

i'm more frustrated with the situation itself, these items were once more uncommon and harder to come by and now it feels like they're dropping in value and it kinda makes me sad when i know i worked so hard (like chaos and themis did) to get all the items and now they're no where near the value they used to be :/

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:09
by Themis
That makes me really sad too.
It took a long time, lots of funds, and lots of patients to get all the Digging items and now since the site update for some reason they are much more common and it feels like we did all that work for nothing. :mccry:

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:10
by Kurai9Angel
That's the way i feel as well :/

urgh x.x; if i would've known this would've happened i would've waited and not bought anything :/

however none of us expected this

*pats Themis*

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:11
by Themis
Same. I could get everything for about half the price I did pay now.
Ugh.
/Huffs and crosses arms.
Doesn't seem fair :qoops:

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:13
by Shinji_Fumajime
Could it be possible that the chances for finding the digging items have been raised? I know that originally it was more the "younger" Knuffel that were finding things, or I thought it was confirmed.

Not to make you feel worse (it isn't my intentions), but that's why I tend to wait at least a little bit after something comes out.

*Pats Themis.*

I know eventually Firn may switch these out; she mentioned something like that with the introduction of these (I think.) Just so there's not too many.

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:14
by ladyceres
x_x I'm looking at this from two ends: yeah I'm upset and crazy that the demand is going down but I'm also glad people are getting things they normally wouldn't have had the rareness been as it was.

@shinji: yeah I think Lilandra mentioned it

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:15
by Lilandra
Well, I guess, we share the same opinion about the items. I didn't mean to get angry and yell at people or something, I just felt a little blamed and I really didn't have any bad intentions.

I myself think the prices will go up a lot once the new set is released and they'll be a lot more exclusive then again. Also, I think that there won't be a "flood" of them again, as the system will probably stay the way it is, so I assume everything's fine now.

Re: KofK Price Guide (Image Heavy)

Posted: Jul 30th, '10, 02:16
by Themis
I hope they're switched out soon, before there are so many out that they become worthless.
I know they wont be worthless forever, but will be for sometime.