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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 24th, '18, 20:10    


Pernelle

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Firn wrote:Well, technically you can see all old official Knuffel if you just go to Knufftropolis and click on the "older gen" button, expect for this one new auction Knuffel. :mcheh:
Yes, it's with this knuffel as well as possible future one of a kind knuffel in mind, since they won't show up in knufftropolis :>

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 24th, '18, 21:10    


memoriam

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I agree with Firn, we have the special button in the Knufftropolis, plus we have the KOfK wikia, where you can find all stages of past knuffs. Hopefully they are still being updated.

Then maybe just a gallery of the Unique knuffels? Like we have a gallery of past winners in the avatar/room contests? It could be on the auction page I guess? Since not many users will be able to have the knuffel it would be nice to get a glance :mccute:

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 24th, '18, 21:17    


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Firn

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memoriam wrote:
Then maybe just a gallery of the Unique knuffels? Like we have a gallery of past winners in the avatar/room contests? It could be on the auction page I guess? Since not many users will be able to have the knuffel it would be nice to get a glance :mccute:
I don't think that should be too difficut to code, will ask starkad about it

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 25th, '18, 11:52    


Sonnentau

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hey Firn
And sorry to all that the next part is in german but i can tell Firn than better what i mean.
Main points will be
- older knuffel Generation
-item auctions

So wie gesagt deutsch.
Die Idee mit dem uni one ist zwar ganz gut zieht aber eigentlich nur die FP von dennen ab die wirklich zu viel haben. Wäre es dan nicht eigentlich auch eine Idee das zahlungs system der aelteren knuffel umzustellen?
Keiner zahlt für ein gen 1, umgerechnet 2mio an FP (momentanter stand 1fc= 100k)
Um auch an die kleinen "Fische" zu kommen wurde ich da ansetzen.
Anstatt das jede neue gen die alte um eine FC steigen lässt, sollte sie vielleicht nur um 5k steigen so das auch aeltere Generation attraktive sind um diese zu kaufen.
Du hast selbst irgendwo mal gesagt das dieses system nie genutzt wird ^^

So und dann für die die knuffel nicht wirklich sammeln einfach mal wieder ein paar alte items in den Markt werfen zum Beispiel den star BG vom luna set *hust hust*
Und auch wieder besonders items, ich persönlich wurde ich mich ja freuen wenn noch maal die ersten spezial items in den Markt kommen.


So das wars erst mal, glaube ich

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 25th, '18, 12:08    


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Ja, die Preise der alten Knuffe zu überdenken wäre sicher eine Idee. Allerdings finde ich um 5K zu erhöhen ehrlich gesagt nicht sinnvoll. Davon hat wieder nur der User, der es kauft erst mal etwas, aber die Seite bekommt weder Spenden noch hilft es der Inflation, weil bei den jüngeren durch einen Knuffel immernoch mehr Food in die Community gepumpt wird als rausgenommen wird. Aber ich werde Mal drüber nachdenken und schauen, was man da optimieren könnte. Ich denke, beim FC system möchte ich bleiben, aber vielleicht kann man die Preise dennoch reduzieren, denn du hast recht, so viele FC gibt keiner für einen Knuffel aus.

Wegen den Market items: Ich habe das ja eine Zeit lang ganz oft gemacht, aber ehrlich gesagt habe ich aus zwei Gründen damit aufgehört: Das erste war ein Kommentar irgendwo, wo jemand sinngemäß schrieb "Ich kaufe keine Treasure Trove/ Monthly Treasure items für Fairy Coins, Firn verkauft sie ja eh irgendwann für Food im Marketplace" - Und das war nicht Sinn der Sache. Ich wollte zum einen neueren Usern die Chance geben alte Items, die sonst kaum jemand/niemand verkauft zu bekommen, zum anderen hatte ich gehofft, dass es eben der Inflation etwas entgegenwirken kann, weil ich ja Food rausnehme. Sicher wollte ich nicht, dass user noch weniger spenden als sowieso schon, weil sie sich darauf verlassen, dass ich die Items irgendwann für Food anbiete.
Aber auch letzteres hat nicht wirklich gut funktioniert, denn die Preise sind immer weiter und weiter in den Keller gegangen. Ich hatte am Schluss sogar einige TT/MT item auctionen, wo der Preis nicht mal über das Startgebot von 1000 food hinaus gegangen ist. Das hat mich frustriert und ich habe es erst Mal bis auf weiteres wieder eingestellt.



(In case anyone wants to join the discussion, Sing along Songs suggested the change of prices for old generation Knuffel and requested me to auction off items in the marketplace again. Said I would think about the first and what would be a good change and that I don't auction off items anymore, because some old TT/MT hardly went over the starting bid, some even not at all, so there was no demand and that I read that some people don't spend FC on these items, because they relied on me to sell them for food in the market, which was not the point of this idea.)

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 25th, '18, 12:12    


Eva

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I think if the older gens are to be offered for FP instead of FC they should be VERY expensive. But I also think a cap on how man FC they are would be nice, they start to add up fast, wowee. I would never want the site to remove a function that is supposed to encourae donating so maybe an option for both? But that might set a value for FC which I know we try to avoid...

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 25th, '18, 13:30    


l-lappy

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Firn wrote:(In case anyone wants to join the discussion, Sing along Songs suggested the change of prices for old generation Knuffel and requested me to auction off items in the marketplace again. Said I would think about the first and what would be a good change and that I don't auction off items anymore, because some old TT/MT hardly went over the starting bid, some even not at all, so there was no demand and that I read that some people don't spend FC on these items, because they relied on me to sell them for food in the market, which was not the point of this idea.)
I'm actually glad you said that, It really pissed me of at the time.

I spent ages looking for items over paying for them etc;

Only to have other people then get them for hardly anything,
not only that the users who I got some of the items of then re-got the item I got of them for hardly nothing.

... that and people who kept reselling my FC's
I crashed the market so many times and same users kept re selling them.
Made me so angry at the time.

Be honest it was half the reason why I quit,
the other half I wasn't enjoying myself any more and wanted to try other things.
Plus got new job that was very demanding. :mcdead:

I was also finding it hard to keep up with the treasure trove items,
it was so hard to buy spares so I could trade with people.
There was way to many. :mclaugh:

At the time I didn't want to say anything because I would be seen as
"jealous or bitching or over reacting" and I didn't want people to think I left in a rage or anything.

As I really did enjoy myself so much and I love my stuff and the site.
I just always wanted to say this and just had the chance haha :mchappy:

I'm over it anyhow, I don't hold grudges and stuff; Life way to short.
And its not anyone's fault really, just how it goes. :mchappy:


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Anyhow I think your hardest problem at the moment is to get new people.
I know what your issue is to, the site needs to be mobile and tablet friendly.

The "new generation" I'm going call it haha

Are glued to tablets and there phones, I find the site quite hard to type on with my phone, I don't even try with my tablet. Over half of people don't even have a computer any more.

Kids these days unfortunately are all app based, needs to be easy access / don't want to work to hard for it / push button "does lots of things at once" haha

I don't think there an issue with what you already have, It's just low player base that is killing you right now.
Which of course is going to push prices up on everything and be lack of certain items.

I been finding it very hard to chat with users over past few days, replies are slow and few between.

beat that and you'll be fine... :mcheh: :mcdead:
x^ x

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For the future though;
I think though, what was said yesterday in wrong chat area about the
1 / 1000 chance to get a older item or even "2008 - 2010" item or something.

I can't begin to tell you how many games I've played where I got carried away paying for that chance.

I even played games where if you were willing to "grind away" you could even make the item in game to get a chance to do this.

Although it could take you months, people who couldn't pay where still happy because there was still a way.

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Also I'm surprised after all these years you haven't introduced a monthly prescription where you pay I dunno 5$ very 30 days or something and get like 2k food everyday if you log daily to collect it?

Or just bonus stuff like "starter pack"
$10
comes with knuffel
Red n blue pills
Day coupons
10k food
1 fc
set of clothes

You can only buy it once.
Make it limited time to get it, like "special offer first week only when you join"
kinda thing?

You can just make packs anyhow like
"$10.00" random chance for old knuffel
er
$25.00 for random old TT set from 2015- 2018

$5.00 for a random any 1 item:
10% for shop item, 5% chance for MT or TT
1% for old old awesome item kinda thing

Just throwing random stuff out in my head. haha
:mchappy:

*sorry * I space my post out so long,
I struggle to read post when there huge n post together.
I guess it type of dyslexia. :mcheh:

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 25th, '18, 14:13    


Sonnentau

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I'm not sure if i wrote something misunderstanding but i mean the really old mt/TT items Form the first, say 3 years of this site not the newer one ^^

And even when some people will cry when i ask this but could you maybe
Action the Dahlia eyes in blue Iris again or the virgo hair?
No one can shout when you sell them again right?
Many user wish there could get one in there greedy Hand (like me)

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 29th, '18, 17:03    


JellyBrain

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I thought about surprise boxes.
Let me try to explain it. ( english is not my native language :mcheh: )

Let us pretend you could buy a box for 1 fc including 4 randomly raffled set pieces in randomly raffled colors.

Could that be possible and a thing?
If you do not know what I mean I would like to explain in german or need more time to look the words up I am missing. :qoops:

Like a lootbox in videogames.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Jan 29th, '18, 17:22    


Eva

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Ooo gatcha or lockboxes. That's tricky. For one it's considered online gambling and that is illegal in some areas/countries. But it could also really encourage folks to donate for the chance at getting older/rare items. Which would also stimulate the :food: economy if more of those items came back into circulation.

I wonder if you could bypass the "gambling" think if instead of buying a box, you just bought a FC and also got a random item. I know we get the donation rewards now and it would be similar, but random with a chance for older stuff... hmm ... like I said, tricky.

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