Kingdom of Knuffel

yeah that's the way to go. i make a distinction between arguing with someone and calling them out though. arguing with someone involves trying to get someone to understand why their views are wrong. that doesn't work, usually; it just emotionally exhausts you and they continue being bigots. calling them out, though, shows them that they can't air out their horrible views in public and they can't act on their horrible views either. it shows them that their views aren't acceptable whether they like it or not. and if they try to argue with you about why they're right or try to justify themselves, don't engage. like you said, angering them instead of getting angry yourself is expert handling.

yes this!! i agree. i'm trying to learn not to argue with these people myself, i often end up trying to explain to them why they're wrong, because i would rather assume ignorance than malice, and they always look like they just don't know. i get fooled into thinking they genuinely want to discuss and understand, but they always end up being bigots who don't want to change their mind, after letting you talk for 15 minutes while nodding then show they actually don't give a shit. it is very exhausting! i'm always trying to get better at making them mad and then letting it go. it's hard but i guess it takes practictice! well i'll have plenty since i seem to be surrounded by idiots.

yeah, it's really hard not to get upset yourself while trying to upset them. i find it easy to just be rude and sneering. like 'ew. sexist piece of shit. yuck.' i don't act angry, i act like i'm looking at a turd. and if they try to say anything i ignore them and make gagging noises every time they speak. at the very least, they'll avoid me after that, and then i don't have to listen to their bullshit.

Mynah wrote:i ignore them and make gagging noises every time they speak. at the very least, they'll avoid me after that, and then i don't have to listen to their bullshit.

this is such a power move i'll definetely start doing that haha

Moi wrote:The human race is progressing, but some people refuse to change and they spread their ignorance to their kids who then spread it to their kids and so on.
Ignorance is deadly. I tell my sister to educate herself because knowledge is power.

yeah and you don't know how much this makes me angry. it does feel like we're progressing, but it's definetely irritating seeing 14yo kids being homophobic, no you don't actually think that jared, that's what your shitty parents made you believe
education really is important, i hope we'll all be in a better world one day.
young people are really breaking the cycle sometimes and that gives me hope

i'm trying to not think about it lately, and focus on nice things, like having more freedom since mm yesterday i think? now we can get out and go to museums and cinemas! god i really missed culture. and i can't wait to finally take trips again, i really missed the outside, i wanna go to a lake and have a pic nic! wearing masks of course, but at least we'll be in the open again. i'm just sad that it's been raining since.. well yesterday.
and it seems like it'll go on for a couple weeks