Ziaheart
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Mikael Hart wrote:@Zia: I don't think that being a girly girl is a bad thing, as long as there's something to balance it out, right? The thing I don't like about most girls in shounen anime is that they don't have many flaws and that the flaws they do have ends up being something like, "They're too sweet and gentle." :X
Yeah, too many flaws kinda sucks. I mean, if all a person has are things that make you dislike him, then of course you'd end up disliking him. XD
I don't think it's a bad thing. I just tend to stay away from them because a) I feel they're overused and b) I don't really know much about them.  Well, I do have some very girly friends, but I have trouble figuring out what goes on inside other people's heads.Oh, yeah. Side-characters in Shoujo, too. Mmhmm. If the author is trying to make a statement about the society at large, like Brontë was trying to do with Heathcliff, fine. But if something bad happens to them and the author tries to make us feel for them like in 1984, then they've got a hard work in front of them. But if they can, then that's amazing. I've read this webcomic where this person took one of the fan-favourite characters, turned the audience against him, and then built him back up. It was pretty cool.Nuke wrote:Zia- I think everyone writes what they want to and that's for the best. I'm a collector of sorts and I tend to collect things I learn and apply them. I use other characters and people I know as examples for my characters who aren't like me. I've also read about behavior, personality, psychology, sociology and so on. I've read books by people who frustrate me and make no sense to me at all, but after doing so I understand something I didn't before about how such people think and I try to mimic it. Lily and Seafoam are like third characters, Shin and Lune would be more like secondary. My primary characters tend to be more like me, though lately I've been playing a mix.
I only think of Sues as being too perfect and one dimentional. I don't think being anti-Sue is a bad thing if it means characters with a lot of depth.
It is, unless the person wants to improve. I think one must step outside of their comfort zone in order to improve. I tried to give myself random topic every day and write a chapter on each and make it coherent. I failed miserably but I think it was a good writing exercise.I wish I could do that, but I just have hard time understanding what goes on in other people's heads. I wanted to take some psychology, but didn't have a chance to. Maybe I'll audit some classes in the future.I can't read books that frustrates me. I just. Can't. I tried and it was just, no. I can't do this. My brain hurts. I've only done that with InkHeart. I hated how the characters were written. It felt so stiff and unrealistic. But what happened to them was interesting enough that I couldn't put it down. But I hated myself with each page. Well, see, Anti-Sues are supposedly bad because they're one-dimensional in the opposite direction. Where Mary Sues only have good points, Anti-Sues only have flaws. Like the characters I mentioned. 1984 and Wuthering Heights. Plus, Mary Sues in terms of self-insertion (which is why my character Mary Sue was named thus) can still be well-rounded and well-thought out characters, I believe (not that I'm claiming my Sue is well-thought out. She's a necessarily flat character).AliceON wrote:.. . @ Zia:
I discover sometimes that I really like some of my sues from the past. I've got my very first sue who I feel ashamed of now, but I really like my latest sue! They are different but have some things in common. I've said "farewell" to both of them, but with one it was like "get out and never come back, you &*$#@^%!!!" and with another it was like: "good buy, dear girl! I will not write about you again but I wish you happiness!" XDZiaheart wrote:"Write what you know" and I figured I know myself the most out of anyone out there. So I do draw on my self and my personality when I write. But my characters are still different people, I hope.
I guess with my curent 4 main characters I've based them on my personality like... I've devided my known traits (those I'm aware of) in four sets. Then I added these sets of traits to the raw OCs. Like I had some ideas about a character but to know him better I've given him a bunch of my own traits. This way I can see his/her reasons and motives much better. I can put 4 different OCs in a situation to test how well the personalities combined. And I try to make sure that if the OCs have anything in common - it's not a feature they share with me. So I can have something in common with one character but not with two or more.[/align]
Yeah. Christina Braverman, while not a self-insertion, I'd say is a Mary Sue. And she's different from the Mary Sues I've written in the past. Bad things do happen to her, she's impatient and temperamental, and at the end of the story, she is not the one who saves the day. But she still has spunk and is very loyal, and I'm still quite proud of her. I do want to keep writing her. Perhaps I'll be able to polish her up further, in the process!Oh, I've done that before! I divided myself up into six main personalities and turned them into a side-character. Then I decided that was too much of Mary Sue and scrapped the whole story and decided to rewrite the whole thing. But I've signed up on many sites using those six "muses", as I like to call them. "Ziaheart" is also actually from that period, though she was more culmination of all six personalities. Then I decided that it was too Mary Sue and scrapped the project, like I said before. I kept the name though, because I liked it, and I've been using it as my main handle for so long, that if I use another, I forget it! But yeah. There are pieces of myself in all my characters. I try to write different characters, but it's easier to write them if the way they think is still similar to mine to a certain point.
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