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Would you vaccinate your child?
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No  6%  [ 13 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Nov 16th, '16, 23:03    


RockinSia

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I agree totally with the use of vaccinations for any age. I understand that some parents are wary, but if they want their children to go out in public, make friends, or go to school outside their house - they're being counter productive to the idea of keeping them safe.

I've been vaccinated my whole life (almost 22 years), and I haven't had anything bad happen to me because of them; besides the panic I remember from the first time I got vaccinated (and a few times after - needles), I haven't had any problems. Now, vaccinations must be more advanced and even more safe.

I'll vaccinate my children as long as they have the most good in them. I highly doubt that they're actually more damaging than going out into public without them.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Nov 16th, '16, 23:29    


Zupprika

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There can be side effets to vaccination. The aluminium they use in them can be bad for your health.
But I think the risks don't compare the the illnesses you get vacciated from. So I'm 100% pro vaccines. Please protect yourself and your children.

By the way, I work in mental health, and where I live, no link is set between vaccines and autism. Making that link is making a shortcut people shouldn't make.
Autism is a neuodeveloppmental disorder, which means it's present even before you're born. A vaccine when you're 2 won't change that.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Dec 13th, '16, 21:09    


Kipkn

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It still makes me furious every time I hear about someone who actually thinks there is any kind of correlation between autism and vaccines, nearly to the point of fury exploding out of my eyes.

My future kids will be fully vaccinated. If any of my siblings start thinking that they don't want to vaccinate their future kids, our mother has already promised to kidnap the theoretical children and get them their vaccinations.

My boss likes to tell a story about how a few years ago, a woman from her church died from getting a flu shot. Is it possible that this happened? Yes, theoretically. Do I believe for a second that my boss isn't exaggerating or leaving out something important to the story (maybe the woman had an aneurysm)? No, I don't. My boss has no understanding of how medicine or science work.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Dec 18th, '16, 06:08    


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I didn't get vaccinated for a while because I kept getting sick either way. But then I started working with kids and then I felt that it would be the responsible thing to do.

I guess vaccination is one of those things that people feel that "It's okay as long as I'm the only one who does it" sort of things. Like, "It's okay for me to bot as long as I'm the only one who bots because just me botting won't affect the server or the in-site economy and I'll reap all the benefits of being the only one who bots", because there is such thing as herd immunity, where if enough members of the population gets immunized then everyone in the herd is safe. But of course, if everyone thinks this way, the server will crash, inflation will go through the roof, the only way anyone can make any progress on the game would be to bot, and even the few people who got immunized won't be safe if enough people don't get immunized, from what I understand.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Jan 25th, '17, 16:22    


Tis ti

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This is actually a very interesting topic for me, because I'm not vaccinated, not because of any fear of vaccines themselves, but because my sister was allergic and almost died with her first vaccine, and after some bloodworks they found out that that could have been the case for me too, so I only got a tetanus shot (because I needed it and it wasn't high risk, or at least hat's what I remember), but that's it.
This means that both me and my sister are very vulnerable and an eventual decrease in vaccines could be very dangerous for us, especially because we both have other separate conditions. Luckily here in Italy pretty much every one (or at least everyone I know) is vaccinated. I've only ever heard a few people criticize vaccines and mostly referring to the less important ones (like flu) and I only heard about the autism-vaccines link from people disproving it, never really found anyone who believes in it.
Luckily (and I think mostly because most people are vaccinated) I have never been seriously sick (except for strong seasonal flu or streptococcus but that's a different story) and I was even able to travel a lot without problems.
So yes I think everybody who can should get vaccinated, mostly for their own protection, but I also think that there is a limit to how many unnecessary ones you should get, I wouldn't get a flu shot every year especcially if I was older and with a more fragile body, but since I don't take shots and don't have kids that could, I'm not really that informed about it...

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Apr 20th, '17, 01:15    


ashabellanar

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Vaccinations have literally saved humanity? We eradicated polio (though I hear it's making a resurgence).
It comes down to ignorance. That word is used as a negative often and I want to stress that I mean it for it's literal use. People are unaware as to how vaccines operate, and the different kinds, and therefore are easy to scare into avoiding them.
We need vaccines. There are going to be people who can't, who react poorly, are too old/young/sick, etc... but they likely don't make up a huge amount of the population. The rest of us need to vaccination for those people, too.

Vaccines are pretty simple. You introduce a small amount of the antigen (the virus/bacteria/etc) and your body learns it's "shape", and creates antibodies (these fight the antigens). It's a process for your body to learn the antibody shape but once it does, it will remember it. Next time that antigen enters your body, you will produce the antibodies at a much faster rate than if it were the first time they were meeting the antigens. So you can fight it faster and more effectively, before it does a dangerous amount of damage. This is why people feel a bit sick after getting a flu shot.

I understand why people avoid it, though (the flu shot). I get it every year because I tend to get really sick otherwise. I'm also going into healthcare so I feel like it's irresponsible for me not to get it.

Also, it's important to note that being vaccinated against something does /not/ mean you can't be a carrier. That's why anyone who can should vaccinate. You can still spread illness.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO VACCINATE YOUR PETS. Especially when they are young. There are quite a few you should be giving your puppy in the first year. Just as a sidenote. Protect your pups.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: May 14th, '17, 01:18    


AutobotDen

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As others have stated, herd immunity works when the majority of the "herd" is immunized.

My thoughts on this: Unless there is a legitimate medical reason not to, vaccinate yourself and your kids.

Also, if you think vaccinations cause autism*, I have some VERY choice words for you, none of which are proper for a forum.

*Spoiler alert: THEY DON'T. And if you think having an autistic kid is worse than having one who died from a preventable disease, you are a terrible person, and shouldn't be allowed to have kids, imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Sep 6th, '17, 00:03    


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I strongly believe in vaccination.
I'm completely vaccinated and so is my family.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 16:28    


VixieMooCow

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i think its ignorant and bad parenting to not allow your kids to get injections, we have them for a reason, they work, your only allowing your child to suffer if you don't get it done. if they didn't work we wouldn't have them

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccinations for children.
Posted: Jan 6th, '18, 05:20    


Vlad Bloodhaven

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I don't think people on here seem to fully understand the link between autism and vaccines... It's not "garbage" or a "myth". There are certain ingredients in vaccines that cause autism such as the preservative EDTA. Though this only has an affect on kids up to a certain age. There actually have been a lot of cases of kids with autism that has been linked to EDTA in vaccines. There have been whole lawsuits because of this. They don't happen as often now because there are EDTA free options and most clinics don't want to deal with this anymore so a lot just settle instead of taking it to court. There is scientific evidence that proves this. People really need to do their research before saying something is "BS". Not everyone is born with autism. Honestly the cause of autism isn't well known. People originally thought genetics, but there is evidence stacking up that say otherwise. That there is no clear cut cause. Some cases are caused by genetics while others are caused by an outside source like EDTA. So it's not necessarily the vaccines themselves, but what is inside them. Also brain damage can cause autism. Just throwing that out there as another example of an outside cause of autism. I myself was not born with it, but got it later in life. I also know a person who wasn't diagnosed until he was an adult.
So to answer your question, would I vaccine my kids? Yes, but one without EDTA.
And as someone else mentioned. Vaccines aren't really for your own kid's safety, but for other peoples' kids also. That is why before children are even allowed to attend school they need vaccines because they put the other children at risk if they do not.
I still really feel people need to crack open medical journals before they start to say something doesn't exist or doesn't happen.

And honestly, if people feel the need to disagree with me in a hostile manner, I won't hesitate to report you. A lot of you who haven't done your research seem very hostile about this subject and I don't understand why you think it's okay to get so hostile about people who think autism can be caused by vaccines.

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